On 20.11.2014 00:08, hinstance wrote:
I dunno. Just wanted to see if it is going to work with implicit
exceptions turned off. I rather dance around and fix memory leaks when
they appear than have implicit try-except block in every procedure.
1. they are try-finally blocks
2. then you'll have to
I dunno. Just wanted to see if it is going to work with implicit
exceptions turned off. I rather dance around and fix memory leaks when
they appear than have implicit try-except block in every procedure. I
did measurements once; found out that each try-except adds increases
stack usage by about
On 19.11.2014 17:29, hinsta...@yandex.ru wrote:
Here is the program I've been working on:
https://bitbucket.org/hinst/sillychat
It was created with purpose of demonstrating how reference-counted
objects could be used in a program which actually does something and now
it works more or less.
And
In our previous episode, Michael Schnell said:
> > But I meant that even if you use utf8string in many places as soon as
> > you stuff it in a container like tstringlist, that is gone. (forced
> > ansi conversion, since tstringlist's interface is defined using plain
> > string(0))
>
> AFAI Unde
Yes this is what i meant. I'd expect that the sizeof(pointer) to return the
target architecture's pointer size, not the architecture of the compiler's
own executable.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Sven Barth
wrote:
> Am 19.11.2014 16:15 schrieb "Kostas Michalopoulos" <
> badsectorac...@gmail.
Here is the program I've been working on: https://bitbucket.org/hinst/sillychatIt was created with purpose of demonstrating how reference-counted objects could be used in a program which actually does something and now it works more or less. And it's beautifulಠ_ಠ Because there are no .Free calls, e
Am 19.11.2014 14:46 schrieb "Marco van de Voort" :
>
> In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> > Am 19.11.2014 11:39 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" <
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de>:
> > > The RTL on Windows now uses the "W" functions and the AnsiString and
> > > ShortString are encoded in CP_ACP. Chang
Am 19.11.2014 16:15 schrieb "Kostas Michalopoulos" :
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Michael Van Canneyt <
mich...@freepascal.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For a cross-compiler, sizeof(pointer) <> sizeof(pointer on target arch)
>
>
> So wait, the following code:
>
> {$if sizeof(pointer)=8} Code1 {$e
On 19 Nov 2014, at 16:15, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
wrote:
For a cross-compiler, sizeof(pointer) <> sizeof(pointer on target
arch)
So wait, the following code:
{$if sizeof(pointer)=8} Code1 {$elseif sizeof(pointer)=4} Code2
{
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
> For a cross-compiler, sizeof(pointer) <> sizeof(pointer on target arch)
>
So wait, the following code:
{$if sizeof(pointer)=8} Code1 {$elseif sizeof(pointer)=4} Code2 {$endif}
will evaluate Code1 for a FPC compiler that is itself
Sergei Gorelkin wrote:
19.11.2014 15:16, Marco van de Voort ?:> In our previous episode,
Mark Morgan Lloyd said: introduces a very significant performance
overhead;>> Linux also does this. On some but by no means all
platforms. I'm specifically trying to>> highlight the fact tha
On 11/19/2014 09:12 AM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
But I meant that even if you use utf8string in many places as soon as
you stuff it in a container like tstringlist, that is gone. (forced
ansi conversion, since tstringlist's interface is defined using plain
string(0))
AFAI Understand (having
19.11.2014 15:16, Marco van de Voort пишет:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
introduces a very significant performance overhead;
Linux also does this.
On some but by no means all platforms. I'm specifically trying to
highlight the fact that on SPARC, Solaris can fix alignment
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> Am 19.11.2014 11:39 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" :
> > The RTL on Windows now uses the "W" functions and the AnsiString and
> > ShortString are encoded in CP_ACP. Changing the DefaultSystemCodePage
> > to CP_UTF8 does the trick.
>
> AFAIK we don't use the
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:54:00 +0100
Sven Barth wrote:
> Am 19.11.2014 11:39 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" :
> > The RTL on Windows now uses the "W" functions and the AnsiString and
> > ShortString are encoded in CP_ACP. Changing the DefaultSystemCodePage
> > to CP_UTF8 does the trick.
>
> AFAIK we d
On 19 Nov 2014, at 13:54, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.11.2014 11:39 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" >:
The RTL on Windows now uses the "W" functions and the AnsiString and
ShortString are encoded in CP_ACP. Changing the DefaultSystemCodePage
to CP_UTF8 does the trick.
AFAIK we don't use the "W" functi
Am 19.11.2014 11:39 schrieb "Mattias Gaertner" :
> The RTL on Windows now uses the "W" functions and the AnsiString and
> ShortString are encoded in CP_ACP. Changing the DefaultSystemCodePage
> to CP_UTF8 does the trick.
AFAIK we don't use the "W" functions yet on non-CE Windows.
Regards,
Sven
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On 19 Nov 2014, at 12:50, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
(On a slightly related note, did anyone run current trunk compiler
with
cmem allocator through valgrind recently? I seem to get quite some
"using
uninitialized memory" hits.)
I don't know whether it's still the case, but in the
Marco van de Voort wrote:
Since cmem is documented to be used from the main program file (iow the
users code), that would nicely put the responsibility there.
That might be where it's imported, but it's heavily used by just about
everything when non-scalar types are being shared between a
dy
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
> >> introduces a very significant performance overhead;
> >
> > Linux also does this.
>
> On some but by no means all platforms. I'm specifically trying to
> highlight the fact that on SPARC, Solaris can fix alignment issues (at a
> price) but L
In our previous episode, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) said:
>
> > > Since the RTL's allocator is documented to align to 16 bytes, it's
> > > definitely an issue also with Pascal code. We do have code where also
> > > Pascal side triggers the aligment issue, but indeed, the main issue is
> > > with
Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
Perhaps the most serious scenario is where an architecture or particular
implementation requires alignment, but the kernel traps alignment errors and
fixes them silently. SPARC Solaris does this and my understanding is that it
introduces a very significant perf
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > Since the RTL's allocator is documented to align to 16 bytes, it's
> > definitely an issue also with Pascal code. We do have code where also
> > Pascal side triggers the aligment issue, but indeed, the main issue is
> > with linked C libs, de
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Jonas Maebe wrote:
> > Since the RTL's allocator is documented to align to 16 bytes
>
> Where?
Ok, that's actually a very good question. :) I didn't find it anywhere,
except some earlier ML/forum posts revealed by Google.
However, in practice it still seems to align to
In our previous episode, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) said:
> > > At least on Linux, malloc() is documented to align to 64 bit on 32 bit and
> > > 128 bit on 64 bit platforms, while this way cmem's GetMem() reduces that
> > > to 4 bytes and 8 bytes, respectively.
> >
> > Since cmem is intended for u
On 19 Nov 2014, at 11:49, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
Since the RTL's allocator is documented to align to 16 bytes
Where? At least http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/prog/
progsu173.html only says that the size is rounded up to a multiple of
16/32 bytes; it doesn't say anything abo
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> > At least on Linux, malloc() is documented to align to 64 bit on 32 bit and
> > 128 bit on 64 bit platforms, while this way cmem's GetMem() reduces that
> > to 4 bytes and 8 bytes, respectively.
>
> Since cmem is intended for use by FPC, I don'
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:22:21 +0100
Jonas Maebe wrote:
> On 19/11/14 09:12, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said:
> >>> As Jonas said, not using utf8 on Windows.
> >>
> >> No, that's not what I said. There is no problem with using UTF-8 on
> >> Windows.
> >
> >
Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
Hi,
I think there are several issues with the cmem memory allocator. The main
issue that it "breaks" the underlying malloc() memory alignment, by adding
a four/eight byte size value to the start of each block for the sole
reason to be able to throw Runtime Erro
On 19/11/14 09:12, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said:
>>> As Jonas said, not using utf8 on Windows.
>>
>> No, that's not what I said. There is no problem with using UTF-8 on Windows.
>
> As long as you explicitely use utf8string.
An ansistring with a dynamic c
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said:
> > As Jonas said, not using utf8 on Windows.
>
> No, that's not what I said. There is no problem with using UTF-8 on Windows.
As long as you explicitely use utf8string.
> > A TStringlist with a ansistrings
> > in them passed to an RTL routine will b
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