Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
What's the Programmer's Workbench?
Shell, assemblers and so on according to Wikipedia- I'll know more when
I've got it installed. Basically, all the stuff that Apple has always
sworn their customers didn't need. At one
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
> >
> > What's the Programmer's Workbench?
>
> Shell, assemblers and so on according to Wikipedia- I'll know more when
> I've got it installed. Basically, all the stuff that Apple has always
> sworn their customers didn't need. At one time it had
Sven Barth wrote:
Didn't you wrote on the Lazarus list that you don't want to get
sidetracked? :P
Yes, but the boss is less likely to read this one :-)
Besides which, finding that dirt-cheap hardware was actually a useful
substitute for stuff which wasn't easy to source might actually be
use
On 08.12.2012 19:12, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I
On 08.12.2012 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run i
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same
one as
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
Do y
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
Do you have a system with such a CPU? If so it woul
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 19 Oct 2012, at 15:24, Sven Barth wrote:
But I don't know what state Vis is in especially since I don't know what VM it
does use exactly.
That port was started by Carl-Eric Codere, and afaik VIS was a "Virtual Instruction
Set" (= VIS) he invented himself.
That I didn
On 10/19/2012 04:22 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
MIPS is said to have lower licensing costs than ARM.
Its also said to use less die space than ARM, but provide a lower
performance/clock relation.
Besides the already mentioned implementations, multiple dedicated chips,
and the rather univer
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
As I said the other day, having real hardware available is a big
incentive to firing somethi
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> >> 68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
> >
> > Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
> > 1.0.x did :-)
>
> Do you have a system with such a CPU? If so it would be nice - if time
> permits - if you could test a bit.
I
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> > make it a closed system for their turnkey products. MIPS is alive,
> > courtesy of the Chinese who- I'm told- are now shipping good-value kit.
> > 68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc. IA-64 is alive but on life-support.
> > IBM mainframes are alive, tha
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
Do you have a system with such a CPU? If so it would be nice - if time
Am 19.10.2012 15:47, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
To my surprise I've got an Alpha system, but my understanding is that
nobody's making silicon any more. Since Chinese manufacturers appear to
have settled on MIPS as their non-x86 of choice, I don't see much future
for it.
That
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
> 68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
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Sven Barth wrote:
To my surprise I've got an Alpha system, but my understanding is that
nobody's making silicon any more. Since Chinese manufacturers appear to
have settled on MIPS as their non-x86 of choice, I don't see much future
for it.
That nobody is producing Alpha (or Alpha-like) chips
Am 19.10.2012 15:46, schrieb Jonas Maebe:
On 19 Oct 2012, at 15:24, Sven Barth wrote:
But I don't know what state Vis is in especially since I don't know what VM it
does use exactly.
That port was started by Carl-Eric Codere, and afaik VIS was a "Virtual Instruction
Set" (= VIS) he invente
On 19 Oct 2012, at 15:24, Sven Barth wrote:
> But I don't know what state Vis is in especially since I don't know what VM
> it does use exactly.
That port was started by Carl-Eric Codere, and afaik VIS was a "Virtual
Instruction Set" (= VIS) he invented himself.
Jonas
Am 19.10.2012 15:13, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
[This should have gone to the list, instead of Florian directly]
On 18.10.2012 20:55, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 18.10.2012 13:24, schrieb Pierre Free Pascal:
>> Are you resurrecting m68k port?
>>
>> Just a guess, of cours
On 10/19/2012 03:16 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
You're wrong ;-)
I do like this fact :-) :-) :-) .
-Michael
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:34 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
How do you mean that?
From what I read in the forum I understand that someone is really
interested and maybe working on it, but it's not yet usable out of the
box. Am I wrong ?
You're wrong ;-)
--
Mark Morgan Lloyd
markML
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> >>
> >
> > From what I read in the forum I understand that someone is really
> > interested and maybe working on it, but it's not yet usable out of the
> > box. Am I wrong ?
>
> It runs enough that we already have automatic test results for MIPS and
>
On 10/19/2012 03:06 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
It looked pretty darned good when I was running it under Qemu two days
ago.
Nice ! good to know...
-Michael
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Sven Barth wrote:
[This should have gone to the list, instead of Florian directly]
On 18.10.2012 20:55, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 18.10.2012 13:24, schrieb Pierre Free Pascal:
>> Are you resurrecting m68k port?
>>
>> Just a guess, of course...
>
> Too late, but it would have been my gu
On 10/19/2012 03:01 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
It runs enough that we already have automatic test results for MIPS
and MIPSel
Great !
I will check it once I will get a prototype with a PIC32 (supposedly not
before 2014).
-Michael
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 02:10 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Pray tell.
AFAIK, MIPS has not completely seen the light of day.
I fell this would be a really interesting Architecture, as e.g.
Microchip adopted it for PIC32 and they are aggressively developing more
and more chips o
Am 19.10.2012 14:46, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 10/19/2012 02:34 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
How do you mean that?
From what I read in the forum I understand that someone is really
interested and maybe working on it, but it's not yet usable out of the
box. Am I wrong ?
It runs enough that we a
On 10/19/2012 02:34 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
How do you mean that?
From what I read in the forum I understand that someone is really
interested and maybe working on it, but it's not yet usable out of the
box. Am I wrong ?
-Michael
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Am 19.10.2012 14:24, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 10/19/2012 02:10 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Pray tell.
AFAIK, MIPS has not completely seen the light of day.
How do you mean that?
Regards,
Sven
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On 10/19/2012 02:10 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Pray tell.
AFAIK, MIPS has not completely seen the light of day.
I fell this would be a really interesting Architecture, as e.g.
Microchip adopted it for PIC32 and they are aggressively developing more
and more chips on that base. I heard abo
[This should have gone to the list, instead of Florian directly]
On 18.10.2012 20:55, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
> Am 18.10.2012 13:24, schrieb Pierre Free Pascal:
>> Are you resurrecting m68k port?
>>
>> Just a guess, of course...
>
> Too late, but it would have been my guess as well. The tale mis
Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 18.10.2012 13:24, schrieb Pierre Free Pascal:
Are you resurrecting m68k port?
Just a guess, of course...
Too late, but it would have been my guess as well. The tale misses only
the very sad part about the two children who never made it to life ;(
Pray tell.
One w
On 10/18/2012 07:13, Sven Barth wrote:
So... now I'm curious what you think I have worked on and I'm also curious
whether someone can fully "decipher" that little story. :)
i don't konw, specifically, of what you speak but the story has been told many
times since opensource reared its head...
Am 18.10.2012 13:24, schrieb Pierre Free Pascal:
> Are you resurrecting m68k port?
>
> Just a guess, of course...
Too late, but it would have been my guess as well. The tale misses only
the very sad part about the two children who never made it to life ;(
18.10.12, 21:29, Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Tomas Hajny wrote:
I'd guess for one of the left-overs from the 1.0 -> 2.0 transition (on the
compiler side). Since I've never been involved so deeply in the compiler
area, I can't remember the topic well, but I can remember repeate
On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Tomas Hajny wrote:
> I'd guess for one of the left-overs from the 1.0 -> 2.0 transition (on the
> compiler side). Since I've never been involved so deeply in the compiler
> area, I can't remember the topic well, but I can remember repeated
> references to a need for rewr
On Thu, October 18, 2012 13:57, Jonas Maebe wrote:
> On 18 Oct 2012, at 13:13, Sven Barth wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time there was a small kingdom ruled by a kind king. The
.
.
>> again. The young mage continued to heal her and they all lived happily
>> ever after.
>
> I guess it's about one of the
Is it about fpc and unit loading? ;)
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On 18 Oct 2012, at 13:13, Sven Barth wrote:
> Once upon a time there was a small kingdom ruled by a kind king. The king had
> two daughters and more children were planned to come. But the king had
> already problems to find approbiate rooms for his second child. So he ordered
> his mages to re
On 10/18/2012 01:35 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
Crutches=libc unit obviously
But Wine stuff dumped :)
-Michael
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On 10/18/2012 01:24 PM, Pierre Free Pascal wrote:
Are you resurrecting m68k port?
PLEEEAAASE !
-Michael
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In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> Once upon a time there was a small kingdom ruled by a kind king. The
> king had two daughters and more children were planned to come. But the
> king had already problems to find approbiate rooms for his second child.
King=Borland
children=Delphi and K
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Sven Barth wrote:
Hello together!
Over the past weeks I've spent some time on getting something to work in FPC
and now I'm about to commit this either this evening or at least this weekend
(depending on the time I have). Now I thought that I'd make a little test to
see
FPC developers' list
> Objet : [fpc-devel] FPC related fairy tale
>
> Hello together!
>
> Over the past weeks I've spent some time on getting something to work in
> FPC and now I'm about to commit this either this evening or at least
> this weekend (depending on
Hello together!
Over the past weeks I've spent some time on getting something to work in
FPC and now I'm about to commit this either this evening or at least
this weekend (depending on the time I have). Now I thought that I'd make
a little test to see how good you know FPC and thus I've writte
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