going to far ;) :
Studying isn't over until the examiner's sung :-)
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so that it could be stored and moved around without grave risk.
Which obviously introduces issues when communities with different salt
are merged... and so on :-)
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to handle something like a bitboard for Go
might be attractive though.
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Daniel Gaspary wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
That was pretty much my gist. Since these days Unicode is larger than 65536
codepoints I don't think there's any advantage to expanding sets from 256 to
65536 elements, efficient
reinierolislag...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9-3-2013 14:08, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I don't know whether anybody can help me with this one, but I'm working
on something where I need a program to be able to create login-capable
database users on-the-fly. I was hoping to be able to use either
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 9-3-2013 19:56, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 9-3-2013 17:31, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
It identifies itself as 2.5, and by that I explicitly mean that I'm
querying it rather than trusting any claims by the Debian package
maintainer
me off list.
Thanks very much, noted.
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http
is
basically a fancy finger daemon.
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/really/ do with checking how many bits fit in a byte :-)
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http
/firebirduser.zip
and in the fpc_laz_patch_playground repository itself (directory fbcreatedb)
Comments welcome.
Looks good :-)
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/firebirduser.zip
and in the fpc_laz_patch_playground repository itself (directory fbcreatedb)
Subject to a maximum user name length of 31 characters on Firebird. The
manual suggests that PostgreSQL has a limit of 64.
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this working in the past?
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Ludo Brands wrote:
On 03/09/2013 02:08 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I don't know whether anybody can help me with this one, but I'm working
on something where I need a program to be able to create login-capable
database users on-the-fly. I was hoping to be able to use either
PostgreSQL
, accessing it is another, managing users a third and so on. I
could have been naive in assuming that isql's CREATE USER was submitted
as such, rather than being translated to API call(s) inside the program.
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Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 9-3-2013 17:31, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
[Nod] I suspect that the key is the way that Firebird documents various
activities as differing subsets of SQL, i.e. defining a table is one
subset, accessing it is another, managing users a third and so on. I
could have
in the past who thought it was entirely
acceptable to make manual edits to compiler output (typically on Intel
blue boxes) before running it through the assembler, and it's very high
on my list of Thou Shalt Nots.
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
Unfortunately pascal macro's are rather limited compared to C. I know I know,
you could potentially open up a can of worms, but sometimes more control is
required.
There is nothing restraining anybody using
stuffed
into e.g. stackframe handling to support features that the compiler
doesn't know aren't being used nearby that performance and
maintainability both suffer.
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Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:23:29AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
An llvm target will move the optimisation burden away from fpc, which
would be very interesting.
While we would welcome a LLVM backend it is basically a consent in
the development team
. something like case TypeOf(db) ?
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the Connected property to point to
code that can e.g. check that all prerequisite libraries are available
before trying to activate the object?
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 01.03.2013 23:35, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Given a procedure definition like
procedure checkLibrariesAndConnect(db: TSQLConnection);
is there a more elegant way of performing type-specific actions than
begin
if db is TPQConnection then begin
end;
if db
initially installed from the
binary release files or from a correctly built distro-specific package.
I normally build from svn, but am used to having to copy /etc/fpc.cfg
when bootstrapping as the one out of tree file.
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set found=true on match or break.
end;
typ:=typ.classparent;
end;
Thanks, detail noted.
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, since- I'm pretty
sure- it's what's used by ps so there are certain things that can't be
changed.
The non-pid stuff, specifically things like /proc/cpuinfo, is far more
of a problem.
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it on Ruby and Java, but it's not
Pascal syntax.
Same goes for array constructors.
I actually starting to ask the same questions of Graeme, do we really
want to follow Delphi instead of creating a more Pascal like dialect ?
As long as it has the dangling-else flaw, it's Pascal.
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Juan Duran wrote:
Hi there,
Is anybody working on being able to uses classes, methods, etc (OOP) in
freepascal compiler for ARM embedded platform?
What are you looking for that isn't already documented as being provided?
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platform and there is no
direct Pascal equivalent, i.e. there's an AVR target but it won't have
Arduino-compatible handling of the various I/O capabilities.
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a unique extension to ensure that a naive
highlighter doesn't get confused.
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. Is there any way of doing
something like
if LibCapShim is TObject then
if LibCapShim = nil then (* Initialisation failed*)
exit;
without the compiler objecting when it finds itself looking at a unit
name in isolation?
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Does a unit- rather than something it contains- have any sort of
representation which is recognisably distinct from an object?
Maybe. But what it certain doesn't have is a runtime instance. unit is
mostly a compiletime
ik wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
Does a unit- rather than something it contains- have any sort of
representation which is recognisably distinct from an object?
I've got a situation where if a library (.dll or .so) is opened
better
than the default main page.
It does appear to have quite a lot going for it.
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) with the methods preinitialised?
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 19.02.2013 18:08, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Thanks Sven, looks interesting and I'll play with it presently. Can an
extended record's fields/methods be set up at compilation time, or do
they need to be done by code?
The example I've given
unanticipated demands on
the software doing the job if the format gets tweaked between versions.
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their work if somebody pays them for blogging. But you
don't do so (obviously I understand this), they have to earn their
living by other means.
And sometimes, having a high-profile blogger pushing one particular
product can be counterproductive since he ends up a figure of fun.
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decades, as well as a few others I've known on a private conferencing
service representing Borpricocadero, IBM and Sun.
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Andrew Brunner wrote:
On 02/15/2013 04:54 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
If multiple, related, programs running on unix (Linux, Solaris etc.)
refer to the same configuration file accessed via a TIniFile, is there
any recommended good practice to ensure that they don't try to
update
Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 16-2-2013 9:09, Sven Barth wrote:
On 15.02.2013 23:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
If multiple, related, programs running on unix (Linux, Solaris etc.)
refer to the same configuration file accessed via a TIniFile, is there
any recommended good practice to ensure
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
If multiple, related, programs running on unix (Linux, Solaris etc.)
refer to the same configuration file accessed via a TIniFile, is there
any recommended good practice to ensure that they don't try to update
. multiple
logins trying to write setup information at the same time. The more
risky case is if there are e.g. multiple daemons or apps trying to save
state when a UPS signals imminent shutdown.
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not sure the message reached its mark.
It's possibly unfortunate that Borland chose to use try for both
constructs, rather than having distinct try-except-end and
start-finally-end forms.
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and then-else
are about the only places where there is this sort of composite block,
and finally-except-end is even uglier since parts of all three blocks
may be executed.
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 11.02.2013 15:30, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
If anything, it is the fault
of AppConfigDir for indicating a directory without raising an exception
pointing out that it doesn't yet exist :-)
And AppConfigDir/File is documented as not guaranteeing that the path
Giuliano Colla wrote:
On 02/12/2013 10:02 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I admit that I was slightly trolling there, since Giuliano was
complaining about exceptions that he wasn't seeing (because, it turns
out, he wasn't catching them).
You catch an exception if you can handle it. If a user
. In the second case, at the the end
of a program run you save the current session's state.
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Giuliano Colla wrote:
Il 11/02/2013 12:40, Mark Morgan Lloyd ha scritto:
Giuliano Colla wrote:
However, what I've learned from this episode is that while attempting
to save configuration data using TINIFile on program termination you
should never use a try..finally construct, as it's
server (cachefly.net) it was by default blocked.
Agreed.
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was restricted to ten words the lines
BEToN will rearrange the bytes in a Big-Endian number
LEToN will rearrange the bytes in a Little-Endian number
run through the unix ptx utility would index under Endian (amongst
others).
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What does Utf8Decode() do if the input is incomplete because it's
arriving slowly over a serial or telnet connection?
By analogy with StrToInt() etc., is there be a TryUtf8Decode() which
sets a flag if the parameter is well-formed?
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.
At present the simplest option looks like a way to temporarily inflate
the size of the stack in lControlStack, so that in the specific case
where a subcommand is being accumulated it can hold more than three
characters. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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they used to be. Arguably,
if you find yourself with a pointer or an address at the application
level then you're at fault: everything like that should be in custom
objects with well-defined interfaces.
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to tell us what OS etc. you've got with any questions if
you want sensible answers.
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emulator were on Windows, but a
particular case on any platform is where for some reason the TE or
console has been set to raw (or similar) mode; there's commands to sort
this out but often the safest way is to restart the session.
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Eric Kom wrote:
On 15/01/2013 13:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Eric Kom wrote:
On 15/01/2013 12:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Eric Kom wrote:
Good day,
After tried to build the fpcbuild.zip version, by executing the
commad make build or make, I received the following error message:
make
as an ordinary text file.
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
runnable fpc, you mean fpc-2.6.0 installed?
export PP=/usr/local/bin/ppc386
make OPT='-O- -gl -Xs-' all
Apologies for my poor threading here, but a message got lost in the spam
trap.
ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/2.6.0/bootstrap/%29.
Thanks
Eric Kom wrote:
On 15/01/2013 17:40, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
runnable fpc, you mean fpc-2.6.0 installed?
export PP=/usr/local/bin/ppc386
make OPT='-O- -gl -Xs-' all
Apologies for my poor threading here, but a message got lost in the
spam trap.
ftp
of internal operations (i.e. the
final value of a is, at best, implementation-defined).
However as I said: it's not Pascal :-)
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on this a few years ago.
It's very easy to argue against multiple assignment. It's less easy to
argue against implementing an equivalent of the C/C++ conditional.
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Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:42:22AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
But if you want an example of a very nasty bug caused by C/C++
multiple assignment, there was a well-documented attempt to slip a
privilege escalation into the Linux kernel based on this a few years
ago
Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:46:54AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've got a vague recollection that since that episode the kernel
maintainers have mandated a use of parentheses that helps the
compiler pick up the distinction between an equality and an
Assignment inside
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
[a, b, c] := (d = e);
would have been minimally acceptable.
Did you really mean that or did you mean
[a, b, c] := (d := e);
? :-)
:-) I meant what I wrote: a comparison on the right producing a Boolean
which
didn't propagate a value like that I'm
not sure a distinction would have to be made between (C-style) = and ==
or (Pascal-style) := and =
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semaphore
can log what's caused a critical section to be entered and an assertion
can report details on attempts to reenter?
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classical Pascal so that I can store capabilities as
a set?
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Yes, except that that loses type checking.
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Ludo Brands wrote:
On 28/12/2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is it possible to extend an enumeration, while preserving strong type
checking? In other words, given existing code like
typeTUpstreamServerCapabilitiesBase= (uscConnected, uscCanIssueGUID
seeing the code...
Look back to 15:30 yesterday.
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Ludo Brands wrote:
On 28/12/2012 12:59, Ludo Brands wrote:
On 28/12/2012 12:48, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Ludo Brands wrote:
type
TAllServerCapabilitiesBase=(uscConnected,
uscCanIssueGUID,lscConnected, lscCanIssueGUID, lscIsFirebird);
TUpstreamServerCapabilitiesBase= uscConnected
microc...@zoho.com wrote:
Ada support off Linux and Windows gets very expensive. But the market is far
from dead. New standards have been approved even recently.
Unfortunately, that's also true of COBOL and even of some earlier
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it,
otherwise I could post my existing fragments here if somebody was
prepared to look at them and tell me what needs changing.
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Reinier Olislagers wrote:
On 22-12-2012 19:00, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Can somebody please lend me a hand making three sets of calls to (I
think) ibase60dyn.pp please. I've written functions to make and poll
asynchronous notifications for PostgreSQL, but I need the corresponding
code
that Firebird appears to make extremely heavy going
of this when compared with Postgres.
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() is an incomplete
solution since (a) at least on Windows it can't provide a path to
libpq's prerequisites and (b) if built to be able to use SSL then libpq
requires that it be available, even if it isn't being used for the
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temporarily changing the current directory has the
desired effect, and this can obviously be done with reference to the
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
When using something like InitialisePostgres3(), if the approximate
location of the database library (.so or .dll) is known, what's the
most effective way of finding the exact file? Is there a single
routine that does
efficient way of
getting libpq.dll for Windows is to install the ODBC drivers, and they
go into a directory typically named like C:\Program
Files\psql\ODBC\\bin where is a version number.
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a multitasking OS you need to look for
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nik wrote:
Hello,
Is there a way to convert endian of a string (from little to big and
vice versa) ?
Change the endianness of a string with what representation?
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to go download it from somewhere else.
What is your problem with starting at
http://www.freepascal.org/download.var ?
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Converting WideString and UnicodeString is a fair question. Are you
handling text files with multibyte encoding?
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LacaK wrote:
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote / napísal(a):
running on Linux x86 (32-bit):
If Lazarus trunk is built with 2.6.0 the bug described at
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=22463 does not occur.
If Lazarus trunk is built with 2.6.2 rc1 the bug is reproducible.
Is somewhere
Somebody's suggesting we ought to be at least looking at BSD. What's the
preferred variant from FPC/Lazarus's POV: OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.?
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michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Somebody's suggesting we ought to be at least looking at BSD. What's
the preferred variant from FPC/Lazarus's POV: OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.?
I think Marco mainly uses FreeBSD.
Thanks Michael. Minimal research also
provides an API
rather than attempting to emulate a PC's hardware.
I might while I'm at it try a ReactOS guest and possibly Sanos: looks
like the author of the latter has been tidying things up a bit so it's
worth watching even if an FPC port is improbable.
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Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 2012-11-21 12:27, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Somebody's suggesting we ought to be at least looking at BSD. What's the
preferred variant from FPC/Lazarus's POV: OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc.?
I'm using FreeBSD 9.0 for some CGI apps of mine, and it works without
hassle
to
do with the compiler version.
The error can be seen simply by reading the project into the Lazarus
IDE, it's not necessary to compile/run. I've not managed to get anywhere
tracking this down myself.
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building from
a snapshot or from subversion should be putting in.
make NOGDB=1 OPT='-O- -gl -Xs- -vq' all
Anything else?
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-64.org/documentation/abi.pdf, while the one for Win64 can be
found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235286.aspx
I started trying to make a list of resources at
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Assembler_and_ABI_Resources but it's
still largely just placeholders.
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cruft that has been pulled in by recent implementations of
GTK etc.
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it now.. If we're trying to make it bloody idiot proof then the
correct form is you are trying or you have tried.
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Makefile)
You try to build with 2.6.1.
That could very easily be misread as You should try to build with
2.6.1, correct idiomatic English would be You are trying to build with
2.6.1., or to rub their nose in it You are trying to build with 2.6.1,
which is not supported..
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