Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Florian Klämpfl via fpc-pascal wrote: Still, it is more logical to place it under utils, with the rest of the programs. The argument about the time to compile seems simply false to me: If you consider the FPC toplevel 'make all' as the only command to issue, then you may

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Florian Klämpfl via fpc-pascal
Am 14.03.2024 um 11:04 schrieb Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal wrote: Hi, On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal wrote: I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an "utils" directory with

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal wrote: On 2024-03-14 11:06, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal wrote: Op 14-3-2024 om 11:04 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: To me it therefore seems a better idea to move the IDE to utils, and to have a toplevel make command tha

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
Op 14-3-2024 om 11:52 schreef Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal: "OK, that would be addressed in case of inclusion under utils as well. Even more so, actually - users who want to recompile packages for whatever reason (e.g. to have debug information included as discussed here recently ;-) ) aren't

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal
On 2024-03-14 11:06, Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal wrote: Op 14-3-2024 om 11:04 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: To me it therefore seems a better idea to move the IDE to utils, and to have a toplevel make command that does the same as 'make all' simply without the utilities.

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
Op 14-3-2024 om 11:04 schreef Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal: To me it therefore seems a better idea to move the IDE to utils, and to have a toplevel make command that does the same as 'make all' simply without the utilities. Or have a 'NOUTILS=1' define. Or let fpmake simply build the

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via fpc-pascal
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal wrote: Hi, On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal wrote: I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an "utils" directory with programs. I agree, I'm also not very fond of the IDE being in pack

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal
Hi, On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal wrote: > I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an > "utils" directory with programs. I agree, I'm also not very fond of the IDE being in packages, but most of the team considers it a legacy piece of co

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Tomas Hajny via fpc-pascal
On 2024-03-14 09:34, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal wrote: Thanks, Karoly and Marco. I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an "utils" directory with programs. Well, yes, it's somewhat confusing admittedly. The IDE sources used to be located at the higher

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
Op 14-3-2024 om 09:34 schreef Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal: Thanks, Karoly and Marco. I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an "utils" directory with programs. Roughly the RTL is a base set of units needed for the compiler itself. When the compiler bo

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-14 Thread Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal
Thanks, Karoly and Marco. I thought "packages" were libraries not applications, as there is an "utils" directory with programs. Thankyou again, Guillermo Martínez. El Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:45:19 +0100 Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal escribió: > Op 13-3-2024 om 21:34 schreef Karoly Balogh via fp

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-13 Thread Marco van de Voort via fpc-pascal
Op 13-3-2024 om 21:34 schreef Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal: H Where are they? Why aren't with the official source packages? But they are. The IDE code is here: https://gitlab.com/freepascal.org/fpc/source/-/tree/main/packages/ide It also depends on Free Vision, which is here: https://gitlab.

Re: [fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-13 Thread Karoly Balogh via fpc-pascal
Hi, On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal wrote: > Hi Pascaloids, > > I was looking for the FP IDE sources to check how it renders the ASCII > table and manage the mouse input, but I'm not able to find them. > They're not in GitLab, not in the source packages, not in the

[fpc-pascal] FP IDE sources

2024-03-13 Thread Guillermo Martínez Jiménez via fpc-pascal
Hi Pascaloids, I was looking for the FP IDE sources to check how it renders the ASCII table and manage the mouse input, but I'm not able to find them. They're not in GitLab, not in the source packages, not in the download pages. Lazarus Wiki has two pages "Textmode IDE" and "Textmode IDE developme