Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 08 April 2016 17:08:08 Anthony Tekatch wrote: > > Can MSEgui/MSEide be used to make programs for Mac OSX ? > Currently not. In case of OSX-X11 compatibility layer the effort probably is manageable. I would prefer a Quartz backend. Sponsors wanted! ;-) Martin

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-09 Thread Michael Schnell
My very short list: Pro Lazarus: - The LCL is very compatible with the Delphi VCL and so you can easily port Delphi VCL applications to Linux (but for reasons I don't understand Delphi moved to Firemonkey). - On top of that there is a great number of rather compatible "widget types" that all

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-09 Thread Anthony Tekatch
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:08:41 +0200, "Santiago A." wrote: > Cons. The most important. It looks like Lazarus has more developers, so > may be a better decision for the long term. > The second is the RAD. The immediate two directions updates, from GUI to > source and from source to GUI, is very hand

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Krzysztof
> Just a little hint: MSEide has "build modes". IIRC it had it even before > Lazarus introduced them. Please ask on the MSEide+MSEgui mailinglist if you > like to know how it works. > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.mseide.user > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 08 April 2016 13:33:35 Krzysztof wrote: > > I'm using MSEide only for design forms. For coding I'm still use > Lazarus (with paths to MSEgui source) so I still can enjoy with > Lazarus code completition, build modes etc. Just a little hint: MSEide has "build modes". IIRC it had it even b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
> > Maybe (once again IMO) the only con is that MSEide cannot deal with > > LCL projects. > > Maybe not designing forms visually, but there is no problems in > compiling LCL based projects with MSEide. In fact, I have done that many > times before. Oooops, I did not know that it was possible. So,

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2016-04-08 12:34, Fred van Stappen wrote: > Maybe (once again IMO) the only con is that MSEide cannot deal with > LCL projects. Maybe not designing forms visually, but there is no problems in compiling LCL based projects with MSEide. In fact, I have done that many times before. Regards, - Gr

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
> con of mside why I don't use it: > > The behaviour of the cursor on the end of the line. You cannot go behind the > line as it is usual in almost every other editor. Huh, what do you mean ? I do not feel any difference with other editors... The big plus, IMO, of MSEide is his weight. : less

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Krzysztof
2016-04-08 12:27 GMT+02:00 Rainer Stratmann : > con of mside why I don't use it: > > The behaviour of the cursor on the end of the line. You cannot go behind the > line as it is usual in almost every other editor. Martin says it is difficult > to > integrate which I find hard to understand. That b

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Rainer Stratmann
con of mside why I don't use it: The behaviour of the cursor on the end of the line. You cannot go behind the line as it is usual in almost every other editor. Martin says it is difficult to integrate which I find hard to understand. That behaviour of the cursor confuses me. The other editors

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2016-04-08 10:08, Santiago A. wrote: > Any body has experience in both (or another IDE for FPC) and has his two > cents? ps: It's MSEide - if you are refering to the IDE portion of the project. ;-) I switch between Lazarus and MSEide very frequently. Overall I prefer MSEide. Yes it's settings

Re: [fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Krzysztof
I'm also learning MSEgui from a few weeks. It was very hard start but now I love it. First what you need understand is that it is not using any Qt, Gtk, WinAPI backend as Lazarus so you never get native OS look but of course you can imitate it with own style. Yes, MSEgui has styles engine. For exam

[fpc-pascal] Lazarus vs MSEgui

2016-04-08 Thread Santiago A.
I know it is a dangerous question that can easily turn into a holly war, flame or whatever. But here it is. I have only used Lazarus or a general editor (usually Jedit, geany). Time ago I checked a little MSEgui and, well, I didn't go for it. In MSEgui I found fonts small and interface not very n