I appreciate that some you are afraid that the US will lose jobs to India and
such countries. But take a bigger perspective on this, will you? If India
(et.al.) are not involved with Western technology - if they don't get any
hi-tech jobs and industries - how are they ever going to be able to
Hi,
As Rick Quatro pointed out this happens sometimes. I experienced
that 10 years ago on FM on UNIX regularly with EPS files from
CorelDraw. I do not know any rules when this will happen. Maybe
you changed anything which affects the dimensions or the bounding
box even if that´s not noticeable
Sorry, Art, but the subject never came up. In any case, with people sending
me offlist nasty-grams and others on my back online for a rumor which isn't
even mine, I would not let the list know even if I knew. I'm not the type
leave the list as _some_ people have done when under pressure, but
There is no comm prob at all between me and my contact, and my contact is
repeating something they heard inside Adobe. No matter what anyone says, my
contact is reliable. But the original source of the information, which was
not revealed to me, is apparently not.
OKAY FOLKS, the horse is dead
On 16 May 2006, at 14:42, David Creamer wrote:
Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would
imagine it
will support importing/imbedding of Flash files.
My inside Adobe source tells me that it will be Acrobat 9 that will
have full integration with Flash because Adobe and
Dieter,
You wrote:
Seen from multi-language publishing point of view the recent update
FM 7.2p158 is the most important one for the last years
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332
If a company wants to stick to FrameMaker for the next years and produces
documentation
We try to use an XSLT on import of XML (FM 7.2).
Now the XSLT removes the DocType declaration from the XML file. We can reset
the DocType itself, but how can we resolve the Document Specific Declarations,
like:
!ENTITY ImportedGraphic1 SYSTEM ../eps/02010200-1PV4-Ea.eps NDATA epsi
As these
Hello,
I am trying to find the hex code for Z and z - these are not in the character
set PDF. Where to find?
thanks,
Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards,
Wim Hooghwinkel
Wim Hooghwinkel
DTP and XML Manager T: +31 (0)23 548 48 84
F: +31 (0)23 548 48 85 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.scriptware.nl
At 2:16 PM +0200 5/17/06, Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\) wrote:
I am trying to find the hex code for Z and z - these are not in the character
set PDF. Where to find?
The Hex values are thus:
Z = 5A
z = 7A
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The printer is saying that the 'black' text will come out as a muddy
brown with misregistration issues (not sure what that means) and he is
also not happy with the other colours.
In Acrobat Pro 7, try this to solve the RGB black type problem:
Create the file without any special conversion.
But the ones you have written aren't characters Z and z, but rather they are
accented characters (Z or z with a caron, or hacek). They are in the upper 128
of an 8-bit char table and will vary depending on the char set. If you look
here:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/latin2.html
at ISO 8859-2
thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:24 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)
Cc: Framers (E-mail)
Subject: Re: XSLT and DocType declaration
Wim,
The XSLT processor reads the DTD and creates an internal representation
of
Sounds either as if you're running out of memory or hitting a problem
that's delaying a read or write...
Amount of RAM?
Are the files across a network?
Does the problem occur when all files are open?
Art
On 5/17/06, Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FrameMaker 7.2
I still use the numeric outline form for all the large documents. We often
go down 3 or 4 levels below the chapter, and the numbering makes it clear
where we are.
Nancy Carpenter
Lead Technical Writer
GENCO Distribution System
100 Papercraft Park
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
Niels:
- how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for
- that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our
- wealth (and
- jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long
- run.
John:
- Niels...a point from both sides...
-
- - If you can't
Problem is 'solved' - sorry to have bothered you (deadline) but it still is
a bug in FM7.2:
It turned out to be an image, EPS image that actually wasn't EPS but AI format.
FrameMaker 7.1 had no problem importing the XML, but FrameMaker 7.2 crashed.
Illustration was identified as pdf (NDATA
Hello,
I have put together a process to batch process our FrameMaker files to
create PDF files, like this:
step 1) the Cudspan batch tool helps me create the batch file for a
given book (the batch file contains three instructions for each
FrameMaker file contained in the book: 1) open the file,
Robert Kern wrote:
Any CMYK separation issues I should watch out for if we do this on the
PC instead of the Mac???
No. Quark, like InDesign, produces its own PostScript output rather than
relying on the OS, so it isn't limited by Windows' color model.
--
Mark Barratt
Text Matters
Hi, Jakob:
I have a few guesses that might help track down the problem:
* Set Distiller to check the watched folder at greater intervals, to
give more time for the .ps files to be written completely. (Just a
hunch.)
* Use DoBatch to import, to each .fm file, a printfile whose settings
Hello Peter,
On 5/17/06, Peter Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Jakob:
I have a few guesses that might help track down the problem:
* Set Distiller to check the watched folder at greater intervals, to
give more time for the .ps files to be written completely. (Just a
hunch.)
I had it set
It's interesting to hear how many people have insider sources at Adobe
and other companies, and how willing they are to share this info with
the community at large. Call me crazy, but unless the word is
official, I'd opt to hold my cards close for fear of either spreading
miscommunication or
It's interesting to hear how many people have insider sources
at Adobe and other companies, and how willing they are to
share this info with the community at large. Call me crazy,
but unless the word is official, I'd opt to hold my cards
close for fear of either spreading miscommunication
Hmmm. I doubt that Adobe insiders are giving out anything confidential.
Most Silicon Valley companies make it clear what is and isn't
confidential. For example, almost all the stuff my company does is
confidential. I would never say anything about *our business* that isn't
already posted on our
Hi!
Does anyone have a good add-on FM 7.x tool for managing workspaces?
I'd like to be able to save my current work and then reload it so that
all the open docs in a book re-open and go right to the point where I
was last editing.
Also, does anyone have an add-on for placing *editing*
I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs. The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.
What I want to know is this: I want the keyword I lighted when I
created the link to be
Doug,
You wrote:
I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs. The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.
What I want to know is this: I want the keyword I lighted when I
created
Don,
You wrote:
Just a quick confirmation when you open a structured Frame using the
unstructured Frame interface and you choose to Edit rather than View
Only the structure info is no longer there.
That's true!
Is this a permanent thing?
Yes.
To recover the structured info do I
Hi, Don:
If you haven't saved the file, or if you've saved it to a new name,
then the structure isn't lost...yet!
If you've made changes and saved, the structure IS lost. However, if
you need the structure back, and you have a recent version of the
original structured file, you can open
Is there a way to automatically create a table when you apply a
specific paragraph format? One of my paragraph formats is a heading
that introduces a table. I'd like the table to display automatically
when I finish creating the table's heading. I was hoping to place the
table on a reference
Hi-
I have a webworks related question. When I generate help from Frame files,
WebWorks seems to create two separate anchors for figure number and figure
text. But it appears to be using different fonts, the results of which are that
it looks like the figure number is a half line above the
On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:23:46 +0200, Jakob Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have put together a process to batch process our FrameMaker files to
create PDF files, like this:
...
Now here's the problem: While most files convert OK, in some of them
the pages are assembled in the reverse order,
Under http://www.microtype.com/FrameMakerFAQ.html#Structure there are links
to a few FM7.2 Structure-specific technical papers, including a new Using
XSLT in FM7.2 paper.
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
Not that I know of.
In fact, the opposite *does* work. If you create a table with a title,
format the title with a paragraph format, and then update the table tag
in Table Designer, then Table Designer inserts the properly formatted
title whenever you insert a table.
Doug's way would be nice,
Hi, all.
I hope this issue has an obvious answer. Here is the context:
1. I am using FrameMaker 7.2p158 on a Windows PC and Acrobat 7.0.7 Professional.
2. My FrameMaker book has text insets (relevance will become clear in a
moment).
3. I use cross-references to header paragraphs, tables and
At 04:14 PM 5/17/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
reaction to the problem.
That's exactly it. Cross-references in text insets don't become
clickable links in PDF. Unfortunately, that's how it's built.
Is there any way to
Hi, Martha.
Martha J Davidson wrote:
At 04:14 PM 5/17/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
reaction to the problem.
That's exactly it. Cross-references in text insets don't become
clickable links in PDF. Unfortunately,
Mike,
You wrote:
>I've got some text that I need to cross-reference in a TOC, but I don't want
>it to print in the document where it resides. I've been hiding it in the
>margin, with font color white. Of course, there I times that I do want to
>view the text for editing, and I have to change the
Hi Winfried,
Thanks for the tip!
The eps files are indeed still in the file.
But isn't it possible to let the anchored frame untouched and move/resize
the eps itself to the anchored frame?
The anchored frames needs to stay on the same location in my document.
What does esc+m and p exactly do
I appreciate that some you are afraid that the US will lose jobs to India and
such countries. But take a bigger perspective on this, will you? If India
(et.al.) are not involved with "Western" technology - if they don't get any
hi-tech jobs and industries - how are they ever going to be able to
Hi,
As Rick Quatro pointed out this happens sometimes. I experienced
that 10 years ago on FM on UNIX regularly with EPS files from
CorelDraw. I do not know any rules when this will happen. Maybe
you changed anything which affects the dimensions or the bounding
box even if that?s not noticeable
Bingo! Well, one insider, anyway.
Diane
-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:27 AM
To: Diane Gaskill
Cc: Max Dunn; Framers
Subject: Re: Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Sounds like the communication problem is that insiders
Sorry, Art, but the subject never came up. In any case, with people sending
me offlist nasty-grams and others on my back online for a rumor which isn't
even mine, I would not let the list know even if I knew. I'm not the type
leave the list as _some_ people have done when under pressure, but
There is no comm prob at all between me and my contact, and my contact is
repeating something they heard inside Adobe. No matter what anyone says, my
contact is reliable. But the original source of the information, which was
not revealed to me, is apparently not.
OKAY FOLKS, the horse is dead
On 16 May 2006, at 14:42, David Creamer wrote:
> Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would
> imagine it
> will support importing/imbedding of Flash files.
My inside Adobe source tells me that it will be Acrobat 9 that will
have full integration with Flash because Adobe
Dieter,
You wrote:
>Seen from multi-language publishing point of view the recent update
>FM 7.2p158 is the most important one for the last years
>http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332
>If a company wants to stick to FrameMaker for the next years and produces
We try to use an XSLT on import of XML (FM 7.2).
Now the XSLT removes the DocType declaration from the XML file. We can reset
the DocType itself, but how can we resolve the Document Specific Declarations,
like:
As these are 'in' the DocType element they disappear after transformation.
David Creamer wrote:
>Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would imagine it
>will support importing/imbedding of Flash files.
Integration may be improved, but Flash can be linked (web/local) or
embedded in Acrobat, starting with Acrobat Professional 6.
See a sample PDF at
Hello,
I am trying to find the hex code for Z and z - these are not in the character
set PDF. Where to find?
thanks,
Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards,
Wim Hooghwinkel
Wim Hooghwinkel
DTP and XML Manager T: +31 (0)23 548 48 84
F: +31 (0)23 548 48 85 wimh at scriptware.nl
www.scriptware.nl
ok, I found it (saved FM as MIF):
entity "zcaron" is fm char "\xfe";
entity "Zcaron" is fm char "\xfa";
Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management
Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48
At 2:16 PM +0200 5/17/06, Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\) wrote:
>I am trying to find the hex code for Z and z - these are not in the character
>set PDF. Where to find?
The Hex values are thus:
Z = 5A
z = 7A
- web
> The printer is saying that the 'black' text will come out as a muddy
> brown with misregistration issues (not sure what that means) and he is
> also not happy with the other colours.
>
In Acrobat Pro 7, try this to solve the RGB black type problem:
Create the file without any special
> The "Don't Print" setting in a color definition specifically relates
> to printing color separations from FrameMaker. Colors defined as
> "Don't Print" do not appear on any printed plate when printing
> to color plates, but will print otherwise.
>
> You can suppress specific colors from being
But the ones you have written aren't characters Z and z, but rather they are
accented characters (Z or z with a caron, or hacek). They are in the upper 128
of an 8-bit char table and will vary depending on the char set. If you look
here:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/latin2.html
at ISO 8859-2
FrameMaker 7.2 Patchp158 crashes on batch conversion of XML to FM (menu
file--utilitys--convert structured documents)
Is this a known behaviour?
---
Fout
---
Internal Error 7204, 6109922, 7778420, 0. FrameMaker has detected a serious
problem and
Wim,
The XSLT processor reads the DTD and creates an internal representation
of the document tree, including entity references. You should be able to
access these entities via the XSLT unparsed-entity-uri() function. For
example, the following fragment should populate an XSLT variable with
thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Houser [mailto:a...@groupwellesley.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:24 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)
Cc: Framers (E-mail)
Subject: Re: XSLT and DocType declaration
Wim,
The XSLT processor reads the DTD and creates an internal
> how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for
> that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our wealth (and
> jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long
> run.
Niels...a point from both sides...
- If you can't get through the short run, the
Hi Mike,
Thank you, changing the setting in the job options solved it. And thanks
also for the explanation of the problem for the printer.
I also discovered that if I change that setting to "Convert all colours
to CMYK", the colours in the file are also ok and the whole file is
CMYK. I didn't
Sounds either as if you're running out of memory or hitting a problem
that's delaying a read or write...
Amount of RAM?
Are the files across a network?
Does the problem occur when all files are open?
Art
On 5/17/06, Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware) wrote:
> FrameMaker 7.2 Patchp158 crashes on
I still use the numeric outline form for all the large documents. We often
go down 3 or 4 levels below the chapter, and the numbering makes it clear
where we are.
Nancy Carpenter
Lead Technical Writer
GENCO Distribution System
100 Papercraft Park
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238
Niels:
-> > how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for
-> > that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our
-> wealth (and
-> > jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long
-> > run.
John:
-> Niels...a point from both sides...
->
-> - If
Problem is 'solved' - sorry to have bothered you (deadline) but it still is
a bug in FM7.2:
It turned out to be an image, EPS image that actually wasn't EPS but AI format.
FrameMaker 7.1 had no problem importing the XML, but FrameMaker 7.2 crashed.
Illustration was identified as pdf (NDATA
Hello,
I have put together a process to batch process our FrameMaker files to
create PDF files, like this:
step 1) the Cudspan batch tool helps me create the batch file for a
given book (the batch file contains three instructions for each
FrameMaker file contained in the book: 1) open the file,
Framers,
We do most of our books in 1-color using Frame on the PC, but are now
doing a cool trade book that has a 4-color signature tucked in the
middle. The client requires that we use Quark, but we can use PC or Mac.
Any CMYK separation issues I should watch out for if we do this on the
PC
Robert Kern wrote:
> Any CMYK separation issues I should watch out for if we do this on the
> PC instead of the Mac???
No. Quark, like InDesign, produces its own PostScript output rather than
relying on the OS, so it isn't limited by Windows' color model.
--
Mark Barratt
Text Matters
Hi, Jakob:
I have a few guesses that might help track down the problem:
* Set Distiller to check the watched folder at greater intervals, to
give more time for the .ps files to be written completely. (Just a
hunch.)
* Use DoBatch to import, to each .fm file, a printfile whose settings
Hello Peter,
On 5/17/06, Peter Gold wrote:
> Hi, Jakob:
>
> I have a few guesses that might help track down the problem:
>
> * Set Distiller to check the watched folder at greater intervals, to
> give more time for the .ps files to be written completely. (Just a
> hunch.)
I had it set to 10
It's interesting to hear how many people have insider sources at Adobe
and other companies, and how willing they are to share this info with
the community at large. Call me crazy, but unless the word is
official, I'd opt to hold my cards close for fear of either spreading
miscommunication or
> It's interesting to hear how many people have insider sources
> at Adobe and other companies, and how willing they are to
> share this info with the community at large. Call me crazy,
> but unless the word is official, I'd opt to hold my cards
> close for fear of either spreading
Hmmm. I doubt that Adobe insiders are giving out anything confidential.
Most Silicon Valley companies make it clear what is and isn't
"confidential." For example, almost all the stuff my company does is
confidential. I would never say anything about *our business* that isn't
already posted on our
Hi!
Does anyone have a good add-on FM 7.x tool for managing "workspaces"?
I'd like to be able to save my current work and then reload it so that
all the open docs in a book re-open and go right to the point where I
was last editing.
Also, does anyone have an add-on for placing *editing*
I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs. The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.
What I want to know is this: I want the keyword I lighted when I
created the link to be
Doug,
You wrote:
>I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
>to PDFs. The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
>the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.
>
>What I want to know is this: I want the keyword I lighted when I
Don,
You wrote:
>Just a quick confirmation when you open a structured Frame using the
>unstructured Frame interface and you choose to "Edit" rather than "View
>Only" the structure info is no longer there.
That's true!
>Is this a permanent thing?
Yes.
>To recover the structured info do I
Hi, Don:
If you haven't saved the file, or if you've saved it to a new name,
then the structure isn't lost...yet!
If you've made changes and saved, the structure IS lost. However, if
you need the structure back, and you have a recent version of the
original structured file, you can open both
I agree with John, tools are always changing, but that said, if you have
a choice, Frame is just so much more solid than Word. I've been working
on two projects recently. In one I'm in Word and I'm having the hardest
time just sticking to a template. If I experiment with style changes,
Word
Not that I know of.
In fact, the opposite *does* work. If you create a table with a title,
format the title with a paragraph format, and then update the table tag
in Table Designer, then Table Designer inserts the properly formatted
title whenever you insert a table.
Doug's way would be nice,
Hi, all.
I hope this issue has an obvious answer. Here is the context:
1. I am using FrameMaker 7.2p158 on a Windows PC and Acrobat 7.0.7 Professional.
2. My FrameMaker book has text insets (relevance will become clear in a
moment).
3. I use cross-references to header paragraphs, tables and
At 04:14 PM 5/17/2006, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
>reaction to the problem.
That's exactly it. Cross-references in text insets don't become
clickable links in PDF. Unfortunately, that's how it's built.
>Is there any
Syed,
There is another way to make these work. You can put a hypertext marker over
the cross reference, and the link will work in the PDF.
~~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
Intelligent technical communication since 1993
Technical writing, help development,
FrameMaker and
Hi, Martha.
Martha J Davidson wrote:
> At 04:14 PM 5/17/2006, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>> I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
>> reaction to the problem.
>
> That's exactly it. Cross-references in text insets don't become
> clickable links in PDF.
Hi, Linda.
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> There is another way to make these work. You can put a hypertext marker over
> the cross reference, and the link will work in the PDF.
Will that work with cross-references in text in imported documents (imported
by reference, not copied into the document)
Yes, that is precisely why we did this. We (Tammy Van Boening) and I
developed this method to work on docs in her previous job to resolve the
exact issue you mention, xrefs to and from text insets.
You can find details in our supplemental handout here:
http://www.writersua.com/ohc06/suppmatl.htm.
Thanks much, Linda! I will check out that link.
Z
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> Yes, that is precisely why we did this. We (Tammy Van Boening) and I
> developed this method to work on docs in her previous job to resolve the
> exact issue you mention, xrefs to and from text insets.
>
> You can
--- "Linda G. Gallagher"
wrote:
> I only use that type of numbering when a client
> insists on it. Typically,
> those clients are engineers with content targeting
> other engineers.
==
The complaint that prompted Ms. Gallagher's response
was that multi-level
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