Hi Deirdre,
I am not sure whether this information will help you out or not
Table Captions comes automatically, since in the Table>table Designer>Title
Position or the Caption (as we r discussing) on the Basic tab it is set as
Above Table/below table. You can set how the Table caption should
Responding to Deirdre Reagan's original query, Hedley Finger wrote
(in small part):
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> > Figure captions?
>
> You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why
> isn't there a figur
Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> Figure captions?
>
You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why
isn't there a figure object that is similar to a one-celled table, which
is a pain to set up.
The new figure o
Perhaps I'm missing something in your requirements, or I'm
misunderstanding your description, but another option is to create
text frames in anchored frames that contain the graphics, and tag the
caption paragraph with an autonumbered format that tracks the figure
numbers. Numbering in text frames
For figures, you can have a paragraph (style such as Figure style) with
the next paragraph style defined as a Figure Caption style.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Shuttleworth, Roger wrote:
> Hello Deirdre
>
> The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in
> the Tabl
Perhaps I'm missing something in your requirements, or I'm
misunderstanding your description, but another option is to create
text frames in anchored frames that contain the graphics, and tag the
caption paragraph with an autonumbered format that tracks the figure
numbers. Numbering in text frames
Hi there.
Does anyone who has experience with a free open source DTP program at
www.scribus.net http://www.scribus.net> care to comment on
it?
For example, is anyone at your company using it for brochures or
collateral?
One (old) review touted it as a replacement for InDesign or QuarkExpress
htt
Hi there.
Does anyone who has experience with a free open source DTP program at
www.scribus.net http://www.scribus.net> care to comment on
it?
For example, is anyone at your company using it for brochures or
collateral?
One (old) review touted it as a replacement for InDesign or QuarkExpress
http
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:46, Peter Gold wrote:
> One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
> for graphics: If you specify paragraphs in the table-title area for
> generated TOCs, they will not be in the expected order because FM
> collects them from the page after it collec
Hi Framers,
I am trying to find a two-thirds fraction character/symbol for FrameMaker 8.
At the moment I am typing 2/3 but it looks yuk! I have nice fractions for ?
(Alt+0188) and ? (Alt+0189) but 2/3 escapes me. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Bill
Kratos Analytical Ltd, Wharfside, Trafford Wharf
Thanks for the explanation, but automated figure numbering is not
impossible. You could define different Figure objects the same way you
now define different Table objects, and have the title turned off for
some figure objects and on for others, just as you can with tables.
When I migrated to F
Thanks everyone for the responses. Jerilynne, thank you especially
for the very interesting use of tables for graphics! I will have to
try that.
ps when I wrote table caption I meant "Table1: This is the table
caption" I don't know if I'm using the correct terminology.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at
Thank you Fred for explaining the "why." And thank you to Jerilynne
for explaning how to turn tables into graphic capsules!
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
> Deirdre Reagan asked:
>
>> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
>> Figure captions?
>
>
Jerilynne Knight wrote:
> Set up part 1: Create a paragraph tag to hold the anchored graphic
> I use separate tags for many things, including anchored tables and anchored
> graphics because it provides more control when converting to other formats,
> such as help. In Frame 7.x, the smallest font si
I'd amend this caution with the items in the TOC MAY not be in the
expected order: if there are multiple items being extracted from the
same page, FM will grab everything applicable from the standard flow
first then anything in the tables next.
On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:46, Peter Gold wrote:
The issue I see is does the resulting structure still validate?
If you have control over the DTD/Schema, you can resolve that problem by
modifying the structural definition; if not you will have to do some
very fancy translation on export (or import), or leave figures as
non-table objects.
On th
Deirdre,
I also use the "single-celled table with title" method for inserting
graphics with captions, but since you mentioned both figures and tables, I
want to add a suggestion to the good advice others have given.
Consider using a single numbering system for all graphics. It greatly
simplifi
Thanks for the explanation, but automated figure numbering is not
impossible. You could define different Figure objects the same way you
now define different Table objects, and have the title turned off for
some figure objects and on for others, just as you can with tables.
When I migrated to F
Hi Stuart
Thanks for the tip! I use that approach for notes sitting "beside" the note
text and had never thought to use it for this purpose. I LOVE this list!
Blessings
Jerilynne
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Rogers <
srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:
> Jerilynne Knight wrot
Thanks for checking, Paul. I don't pull out table titles for TOCs, so
I wasn't aware of the fix.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Paul Findon wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:46, Peter Gold wrote:
>
>> One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
>> for graphics: If you spe
Deirdre Reagan asked:
> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> Figure captions?
Tables are well-defined encapsulated objects, and one of the properties
that is defined is an optional Title object. If you define a table format
to include a Title object, every table t
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jerilynne Knight
wrote:
> I create a table format specifically to hold graphics.
Is this in structured or unstructured Frame? If the latter, can anyone
see a problem with doing it in the former?
--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Hello Deirdre
The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in
the Table Designer. You can set it to "No title" if you wish.
Figure captions are just paragraphs that you may or may not want to insert.
If you are using structured FrameMaker, you can have a figure cap
OK, but that was in 2001. Ah well life on the web.
Anyway, links that work (Googled "word vs framemaker"):
www.freeframers.org/inframe/archive/files/vol1/1-2/wordvsfm2.pdf
http://www.front-runner.com/pages/support/files/fm_vs_w_ar.pdf
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Adobe-Framemaker-1523/Word-Vs-Frame
Hi Deidre,
Because Tables and Anchored Frames are two different animals. Here is a
solution that many have used over the years: put the figure inside an
anchored frame inside of a single-cell table.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hi all!
>
> Does anyone know
I place my captions/titles above the image or table so that when the
users click a link (to the caption) in the online help or PDFs, the
image or table is still on the screen or page. If you link to captions
that are below images, users have to scroll up to see the image. It's a
minor hassle, but o
Hi all!
Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
Figure captions?
Thanks!
Deirdre
One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
for graphics: If you specify paragraphs in the table-title area for
generated TOCs, they will not be in the expected order because FM
collects them from the page after it collects standard paragraphs.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
___
Hi Deidre,
Because Tables and Anchored Frames are two different animals. Here is a
solution that many have used over the years: put the figure inside an
anchored frame inside of a single-cell table.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hi all!
>
> Does anyone know
Hi Deirdre
Welcome back from class! I don't know the why (other than anchored Frames
don't have that function). And the only way a table automatically creates a
caption is if the "Add Title" option is turned on for a table.
So, my workaround?
I create a table format specifically to hold graphics
Dave,
Graphic Convertor is good for this kind of thing, and chances are that her
educational district may have an educational license for it. But it is demo'd
at http://www.lemkesoft.com/
Preview saves images as BMP, plus many others.
Alan
Dave Reynolds wrote:
> Hi
>
> Not Frame related, but I
I would suggest looking through this page's references
http://members.shaw.ca/philip.sharman/fm_v_wd.html
Alan
Angela Akridge wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Question: What features am I giving up by going with MS Word? Text insets?
> Conditional text?
>
> I'm a contractor for a very small startup that has a li
Hi
Not Frame related, but I thought some of the Mac users might be able to
help. My wife is a teacher and uses a Mac at school. She has bought an
educational program that imports digital images, but only as bmp files.
Because she wants to import photos taken on a digital camera, she needs
t
Deirdre,
I also use the "single-celled table with title" method for inserting
graphics with captions, but since you mentioned both figures and tables, I
want to add a suggestion to the good advice others have given.
Consider using a single numbering system for all graphics. It greatly
simplifi
Hi Stuart
Thanks for the tip! I use that approach for notes sitting "beside" the note
text and had never thought to use it for this purpose. I LOVE this list!
Blessings
Jerilynne
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Stuart Rogers <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jerilynne Knight wrote:
>
>> Set up p
Thanks for checking, Paul. I don't pull out table titles for TOCs, so
I wasn't aware of the fix.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Paul Findon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:46, Peter Gold wrote:
>
>> One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
>> for g
Thanks everyone for the responses. Jerilynne, thank you especially
for the very interesting use of tables for graphics! I will have to
try that.
ps when I wrote table caption I meant "Table1: This is the table
caption" I don't know if I'm using the correct terminology.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at
Thank you Fred for explaining the "why." And thank you to Jerilynne
for explaning how to turn tables into graphic capsules!
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deirdre Reagan asked:
>
>> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
>> F
Jerilynne Knight wrote:
> Set up part 1: Create a paragraph tag to hold the anchored graphic
> I use separate tags for many things, including anchored tables and anchored
> graphics because it provides more control when converting to other formats,
> such as help. In Frame 7.x, the smallest font si
I'd amend this caution with the items in the TOC MAY not be in the
expected order: if there are multiple items being extracted from the
same page, FM will grab everything applicable from the standard flow
first then anything in the tables next.
On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:46, Peter Gold wrote:
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:46, Peter Gold wrote:
> One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
> for graphics: If you specify paragraphs in the table-title area for
> generated TOCs, they will not be in the expected order because FM
> collects them from the page after it collec
> -Original Message-
> I place my captions/titles above the image or table so that when the
> users click a link (to the caption) in the online help or PDFs, the
> image or table is still on the screen or page. If you link to captions
> that are below images, users have to scroll up to see
> -Original Message-
> I place my captions/titles above the image or table so that when the
> users click a link (to the caption) in the online help or PDFs, the
> image or table is still on the screen or page. If you link to captions
> that are below images, users have to scroll up to see
I place my captions/titles above the image or table so that when the
users click a link (to the caption) in the online help or PDFs, the
image or table is still on the screen or page. If you link to captions
that are below images, users have to scroll up to see the image. It's a
minor hassle, but o
You could try posting in the Adobe User's Forum for RH:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=65
or the Help Authors' Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HATT/ .
Art
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Neeraj Jain wrote:
> Sorry for asking the RH 7 question on the FM list.
The issue I see is does the resulting structure still validate?
If you have control over the DTD/Schema, you can resolve that problem by
modifying the structural definition; if not you will have to do some
very fancy translation on export (or import), or leave figures as
non-table objects.
On th
For figures, you can have a paragraph (style such as Figure style) with
the next paragraph style defined as a Figure Caption style.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Shuttleworth, Roger wrote:
> Hello Deirdre
>
> The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in
> the Tab
One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles
for graphics: If you specify paragraphs in the table-title area for
generated TOCs, they will not be in the expected order because FM
collects them from the page after it collects standard paragraphs.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
___
Deirdre Reagan asked:
> Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
> Figure captions?
Tables are well-defined encapsulated objects, and one of the properties
that is defined is an optional Title object. If you define a table format
to include a Title object, every table
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jerilynne Knight
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I create a table format specifically to hold graphics.
Is this in structured or unstructured Frame? If the latter, can anyone
see a problem with doing it in the former?
--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Hello Deirdre
The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in
the Table Designer. You can set it to "No title" if you wish.
Figure captions are just paragraphs that you may or may not want to insert.
If you are using structured FrameMaker, you can have a figure cap
Hi Deirdre
Welcome back from class! I don't know the why (other than anchored Frames
don't have that function). And the only way a table automatically creates a
caption is if the "Add Title" option is turned on for a table.
So, my workaround?
I create a table format specifically to hold graphics
Hi all!
Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not
Figure captions?
Thanks!
Deirdre
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> Sorry for asking the RH 7 quest
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