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Hi all,
RE: Merging books
The situation:
I have a client who has a large number of FM (7.2/8) books. From amongst
these books, there are two particular sets of books, as follows:
Set #1. Two books having about 50 - 60% identical content (each book is
~100 pages)
Set #2. Four books having
Joseph,
You wrote:
I use FrameMaker 9 to generate PS files and then acrobat distiller to
generate PDFs from the PS files. When I generate the PDF, by default the
author name is set to my windows login. I know how to manually change it,
but I thought there might be a way to modify the
Avraham,
Question 2:
I handle this pretty routinely, and I do it by creating a directory
for each document set. Under that I have a subdirectory for \Graphics,
\Shared, and \Book -- obviously there are several \Book directories
with different names, but the graphics and shared content are used by
Stuart,
The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option
using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a
separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still
be working.
Roberta Heinlein
SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance
Yes, the links appear to be correct in Acrobat using the Link Tool. The
link shows as an absolute link and we put relative links in the FM file.
The absolute link is correct and changes when I move the file to another
folder-still correct for that folder. The links work correctly as well,
until
I'm using FM9 and suddenly find that my single and double quotes key types a
question mark. This issue is limited to FM9. Doesn't occur in FM8 or any other
application, so I suspect I have inadvertently changed a keyboard mapping
somewhere in FM9, but I can't find where. Any help appreciated.
Believe I discovered the cause of the problem. It seems to be patch p237, which
also appears to cause some other reported problems like the Paragraph Designer
sticking, etc. Ill-conceived patch. I uninstalled it and now everything seems
to be fine.
Leigh White
lwwhi...@hotmail.com
From:
Hallelujah! It worked. I was running on FM 8.0p236. After I installed
all of the available updates, my links are working again. Thank you,
Shlomo. Now I can breathe again.
Roberta Heinlein
SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10
770-433-8211 x19827
I'm not sure which p numbers correspond to which patch because I'm not
on a 9 system at the moment, but there are three patches out, the
latest released last week. If the patch you're talking about is #1 or
#2, it may be better to go on ahead and then install #3 to clean
things up.
Art Campbell
Thanks, Art.
(a) So you would use the same method for both Set #1 and Set #2?
(b) re: \Shared - You make \Shared contain FM files only?
(c) re: \Graphics - Often many graphics are not shared. So I suppose in that
case you would have a 'Shared Graphics' folder, but also a
separate \Graphics
Replies cut in below...
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
The penny just dropped ... I noticed that you did not recommend (or even
suggest) making them into book and using Conditional Text, even the Set #2
which has the books (four) having about only 10% identical content.
Why, may I ask, did you not recommend Conditional Text?
avraham
On Tue, Oct
You certainly could go that route.
However, you'll also notice that I didn't exclude using CT at all. I
use both shared content and CT, together, on most document set level
projects. I usually use shared content to manage large chunks of
information, and CT to manage smaller items within either
Sorry, I noticed your message only now (as it was sent to the list).
10am PDT = 6pm UK London
Seats are still available, register at
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Shlomo Perets, www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training consulting
-- Original
I've not followed all the details of this thread, but like Art, I use a
combination of conditional text, variables, and text insets when I need to
produce multiple versions of content that have a decent amount of shared
content.
Sometimes I'll share entire chapters, because they're identical or
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed, it's
appropriate to make certain you estimate ENOUGH time to do the job.
What you are presenting is something that I would not contemplate in a
couple of days.
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if I
had no familiarity with them, I would estimate the time for completion at 5
pages an hour.
and if I had no familiarity with them
The SME said he will be doing the job of marking (in a PDF or in a Word
export) which blocks
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed,
Good point of course. I already insisted that this is something that they
must postpone until **after** the delivery deadline.
I would estimate the time for completion at 5 pages an hour.
Hmmm .. so that's 20 hours per 100
In addition, there is also the possibility of migrating everything
from FM to Word floating around at this particular client. So there is
never much point in making a big investment in FM book restructuring.
Argh ... they should re-think this possibility.
While I had been an early FrameMaker
As a first step I would not include the end of paragraph marker. It may be
adding something to the actual URL that is misdirecting the link.
David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer
From: tcs-us...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tcs-us...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
Sent:
Hi all,
I need to make a hyperlink (hypertext) to a different area of text in the
same book-- actually in the same document/file.
How would I do this.
In Word this would be a two step operation:
1. Create a bookmark extending at or over the range of the text.
2. Create a hyperlink by opening
Look up Cross references in the Frame help. That will get you going.
sharon
Sharon Burton
MadCap Software Product Consultant
Managing your content, one topic at a time
www.anthrobytes.com
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com
Twitter: sharonburton
-Original Message-
From:
Avraham Makeler wrote:
Hi all,
I need to make a hyperlink (hypertext) to a different area of text in the
same book-- actually in the same document/file.
How would I do this.
...
Help would be appreciated ...
Help is available: In FM, press F1 and search for hypertext and/or
It better to estimate the worst case, rather than best case scenario.
You could find that your conversion/merge goes much faster, in which
case you are a hero. If you estimate too little and miss your delivery
date, you are a villain.
If they go to Word, then there won't be any sharing of
If you've got a success story using the Adobe Technical Communication
Suite, I'd like to chat briefly with you. Let me know. I'm writing a
series of cases studies and would love to hear how you are using these
tools.
Let me know.
Scott Abel, The Content Wrangler
+1 (760) 550-9321
Joseph,
You wrote:
> I use FrameMaker 9 to generate PS files and then acrobat distiller to
> generate PDFs from the PS files. When I generate the PDF, by default the
> author name is set to my windows login. I know how to manually change it,
> but I thought there might be a way to modify the
Avraham,
Question 2:
I handle this pretty routinely, and I do it by creating a directory
for each document set. Under that I have a subdirectory for \Graphics,
\Shared, and \Book -- obviously there are several \Book directories
with different names, but the graphics and shared content are used by
Hallelujah! It worked. I was running on FM 8.0p236. After I installed
all of the available updates, my links are working again. Thank you,
Shlomo. Now I can breathe again.
Roberta Heinlein
SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10
770-433-8211 x19827
I'm not sure which p numbers correspond to which patch because I'm not
on a 9 system at the moment, but there are three patches out, the
latest released last week. If the patch you're talking about is #1 or
#2, it may be better to go on ahead and then install #3 to clean
things up.
Art Campbell
Thanks, Art.
(a) So you would use the same method for both Set #1 and Set #2?
(b) re: \Shared - You make \Shared contain FM files only?
(c) re: \Graphics - Often many graphics are not shared. So I suppose in that
case you would have a 'Shared Graphics' folder, but also a
separate \Graphics
Replies cut in below...
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
The penny just dropped ... I noticed that you did not recommend (or even
suggest) making them into book and using Conditional Text, even the Set #2
which has the books (four) having about only 10% identical content.
Why, may I ask, did you not recommend Conditional Text?
avraham
On Tue, Oct
You certainly could go that route.
However, you'll also notice that I didn't exclude using CT at all. I
use both shared content and CT, together, on most document set level
projects. I usually use shared content to manage large chunks of
information, and CT to manage smaller items within either
I've not followed all the details of this thread, but like Art, I use a
combination of conditional text, variables, and text insets when I need to
produce multiple versions of content that have a decent amount of shared
content.
Sometimes I'll share entire chapters, because they're identical or
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed, it's
appropriate to make certain you estimate ENOUGH time to do the job.
What you are presenting is something that I would not contemplate in a
couple of days.
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if
Sorry, I noticed your message only now (as it was sent to the list).
10am PDT = 6pm UK London
Seats are still available, register at
https://student.gototraining.com/register/5203029145993480857
Shlomo Perets, www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting
>-- Original
>> For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if I
had no familiarity with them, I would estimate the time for completion at 5
pages an hour.
>> and if I had no familiarity with them
The SME said he will be doing the job of marking (in a PDF or in a Word
export) which
>> I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed,
Good point of course. I already insisted that this is something that they
must postpone until **after** the delivery deadline.
>> I would estimate the time for completion at 5 pages an hour.
Hmmm .. so that's 20 hours per 100
> In addition, there is also the "possibility of migrating everything
from FM to Word" floating around at this particular client. So there is
never much point in making a big investment in FM book restructuring.
Argh ... they should re-think this "possibility".
While I had been an early
As a first step I would not include the end of paragraph marker. It may be
adding something to the actual URL that is misdirecting the link.
David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer
From: TCS-Users at googlegroups.com [mailto:tcs-us...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
Sent:
Hi all,
I need to make a hyperlink (hypertext) to a different area of text in the
same book-- actually in the same document/file.
How would I do this.
In Word this would be a two step operation:
1. Create a bookmark extending at or over the range of the text.
2. Create a hyperlink by opening
Look up Cross references in the Frame help. That will get you going.
sharon
Sharon Burton
MadCap Software Product Consultant
Managing your content, one topic at a time
www.anthrobytes.com
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com
Twitter: sharonburton
-Original Message-
From:
In addition to David's tip, I'd try creating the hypertext hotspot and
link in a regular text paragraph so that the table doesn't force any
line breaks.
Test that, and if it works, copy it into the table.
Art
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's
Avraham Makeler
> I need to make a hyperlink (hypertext) to a different area of text in
the
> same book-- actually in the same document/file.
>
> How would I do this.
Why do you want to use hypertext instead of cross-references?
> I can see that in FM there are things called markers (like
Avraham Makeler wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to make a hyperlink (hypertext) to a different area of text in the
> same book-- actually in the same document/file.
>
> How would I do this.
...>
> Help would be appreciated ...
Help is available: In FM, press F1 and search for hypertext and/or
It sounds like you have extra Hypertext markers in your document. With the
document open in Frame, open the Marker dialog and then search for all
markers of type Hypertext. Watch the cursor placement carefully. I would be
will to bet, if I was a betting type, that there are multiple markers with
It better to estimate the worst case, rather than best case scenario.
You could find that your conversion/merge goes much faster, in which
case you are a hero. If you estimate too little and miss your delivery
date, you are a villain.
If they go to Word, then there won't be any sharing of
Avraham,
In addition to Scott's good advice
You need to factor in some of your own learning curve time. I seem to
remember from earlier posts that you're a relative novice with Frame
(forgive me if I'm mis-remembering), but the first time you do any of
this stuff, you're likely to take twice
If you've got a success story using the Adobe Technical Communication
Suite, I'd like to chat briefly with you. Let me know. I'm writing a
series of cases studies and would love to hear how you are using these
tools.
Let me know.
Scott Abel, The Content Wrangler
+1 (760) 550-9321
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