OT: Turn off Acrobat security warnings for hyperlinks to local docs

2013-05-22 Thread Yves Barbion
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer
> No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version. The subscription ends after the four upgrades are released, but if you purchased the perpetual license, you do not lose your ability to use the software even though you do not receive any more upgrades. > It'll be another $800

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer
> No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version. The subscription ends after the four upgrades are released, but if you purchased the perpetual license, you do not lose your ability to use the software even though you do not receive any more upgrades. > It'll be another $800

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version. It'll be another $800 (or whatever) in a year or the software will stop working. A perpetual license is available, but it's considerably more expensive. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Writer wrote: >>Truth in Advertising Disclosu

Re: pod for displaying and sorting lists of markers, xrefs etc.

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
When I first used FM9, I was mostly focused on finding workarounds for the bugs that made it impossible to use the keyboard shortcuts and window layouts I'd been using for years. I picked some command from the Pods menu, probably conditional text, which was and is not obviously improved. Since I di

RE: pod for displaying and sorting lists of markers, xrefs etc.

2013-05-22 Thread Craig Ede
I don't really see the UI name collision you describe. The pods for xrefs, markers, etc. are clearly a different form of access to these various objects. It's not like calling up the pod doesn't clearly show something different that calling up the older object editing windows. The older access wind

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Alastair Dent
I believe this is the same in the UK. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Shaked Sent: 21 May 2013 20:55 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
In the US, you can choose not to depreciate software, provided it meets certain conditions and you haven't exceeded certain limits: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p946/ch02.html For WebWorks, for me the subscription model penciled out as cheaper in the long run. We have to update our browser sup

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't see why Adobe should care about a petition if subscription revenues aren't lower than expected. You don't like it, don't subscribe. They'll get the message. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list mes

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Bethany Lee
Cool! Signed! Thanks for sharing. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:10 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe softwar

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Shlomo Perets
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Indeed, yes. Adobe have steadily reduced the value of their products in favour of increasing marketing expenditure (e.g. the "standardised" UI) and PR, and feature bloat in place of stability and quality software. Now, to increase value for stockholders and to shore up the bottom line, they nee

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Richard Doll
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Re: OT: Turn off Acrobat security warnings for hyperlinks to local docs

2013-05-22 Thread Yves Barbion
Oops, sorry I forgot to say what the problem is: I keep getting Security Warnings from Acrobat, saying "The document is trying to connect to file:///c:/demo/filename.pdf If you trust the site choose Allow. If you don't, choose Block. So, the question is: how can I get rid of these security warnin

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Mike Wickham
The law is the same here, but we have a generous Section 179 deduction that most businesses can use to deduct 100% of all capital expenses each year. I believe there are also some other temporary "stimulus" provisions in place that allow other methods of deducting the full 100%. The subscriptio

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Mike Wickham
> I'm under the impression that the subscription is about the same price as constant upgrades. Actually, it's substantially more. I looked back and the last two CS upgrades I bought were around $600. The product has an 18-month cycle between upgrades, which means an average of $400 per year--

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If the only option is subscription, the reason people will keep paying is to keep their access to the software, instead of paying for upgrades due to improvements. This reduces Adobe's incentive to add new features that they normally would add in order to convince people to upgrade. The upside

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Richard Doll
all Adobe users also signed the petition . . . because (follows) had recent issues with customer supplied images as PDF (would crash my Acrobat 7.1). emailed "Support" who said "they knew of and had a fix to download, but would require me to delete/remove my 7.1. asked them 3x more - all with "

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Dave.Stamm
2013-05-22-03T16:55Z Mike Wickham wrote, "You know, we users ought to start billing Adobe for the hours we spend providing free customer support for them in the various forums. We undoubtedly save the company millions of dollars per year. I imagine that the billing for my posts on this listser

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2013-05-22-03T16:55Z Mike Wickham wrote, "You know, we users ought to start billing Adobe for the hours we spend providing free customer support for them in the various forums. We undoubtedly save the company millions of dollars per year. I imagine that the billing for my posts on this listser

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Shlomo Perets
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Mike Wickham
The law is the same here, but we have a generous Section 179 deduction that most businesses can use to deduct 100% of all capital expenses each year. I believe there are also some other temporary "stimulus" provisions in place that allow other methods of deducting the full 100%. The subscripti

pod for displaying and sorting lists of markers, xrefs etc.

2013-05-22 Thread Craig Ede
I don't really see the UI name collision you describe. The pods for xrefs, markers, etc. are clearly a different form of access to these various objects. It's not like calling up the pod doesn't clearly show something different that calling up the older object editing windows. The older access wind

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Mike Wickham
> I'm under the impression that the subscription is about the same price as constant upgrades. Actually, it's substantially more. I looked back and the last two CS upgrades I bought were around $600. The product has an 18-month cycle between upgrades, which means an average of $400 per year--

OT: Turn off Acrobat security warnings for hyperlinks to local docs

2013-05-22 Thread Yves Barbion
gle searches and particularly the Acrobat Help didn't really help me. Any ideas? -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130522/b085c855/attachment.html>

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version. It'll be another $800 (or whatever) in a year or the software will stop working. A perpetual license is available, but it's considerably more expensive. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Writer wrote: >>Truth in Advertising Disclosu

pod for displaying and sorting lists of markers, xrefs etc.

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
When I first used FM9, I was mostly focused on finding workarounds for the bugs that made it impossible to use the keyboard shortcuts and window layouts I'd been using for years. I picked some command from the Pods menu, probably conditional text, which was and is not obviously improved. Since I di

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Alastair Dent
I believe this is the same in the UK. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Shaked Sent: 21 May 2013 20:55 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Done and FB'd. Alan On 22/05/13 1:09 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Yes, please sign and pass it on: > http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model > > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > -- AlphaBy

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Shlomo Perets
Pricing-wise, let's not forget the Adobe's "personalized experience" in the form of a different list price for different countries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hYc_SEDqw &t=3m09s Shlomo -- Original message -- From:

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer
>Truth in Advertising Disclosure: I am biased. I am a reseller for a software >application that is sold mainly by subscription (WebWorks ePublisher). But I >purchase other software by subscription, and I prefer it. But even WebWorks offers a perpetual license so that when you stop buying the subs

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer
>Truth in Advertising Disclosure: I am biased. I am a reseller for a software >application that is sold mainly by subscription (WebWorks ePublisher). But I >purchase other software by subscription, and I prefer it. But even WebWorks offers a perpetual license so that when you stop buying the subs

RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Shlomo Perets
These pods were present in FrameMaker starting with version 9.0, as part of the new UI. Access/functionality is the same in all versions (9 or later): View > Pods. or Window > Panels. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http:// microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captiv

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-22 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If the only option is subscription, the reason people will keep paying is to keep their access to the software, instead of paying for upgrades due to improvements. This reduces Adobe's incentive to add new features that they normally would add in order to convince people to upgrade. The upside

OT: Turn off Acrobat security warnings for hyperlinks to local docs

2013-05-22 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi group I've got PDF files with hyperlinks to other PDF files (message openfile filename.pdf). I know about Edit > Preferences > Trust Manager for hyperlinks to web sites, but there has got to be a similar one for hyperlinks to local docs. I'm using Acrobat 9 Pro. Google searches and particularl