FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread VLM TechSubs
Can anybody see a mistake here: EmphasisAmerican Crisis, Default Para Fontby Thomas Paine ? The result is supposed to like: American Crisis, by Thomas Paine 123 The matching entries that look like: Paine, Thomas, EmphasisAmerican Crisis all work just fine. My entire index is ready to

RE: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
It would help if you told us what the incorrect result *does* look like. You tell us the content of the marker and the desired result, but not what result you are actually getting. BTW, why are you including the comma in the italicized part of the index entry? It's not part of the title

RE: FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
IMO, this is one prime reason not to use tabs to separate page numbers from the text of index entries. What presentation would be visually logical for the continuation line? Even if the continuation line does not split the page numbers into two groups, what in the world do you do about the

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, folks. The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal with ASAP. My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from American Express and just got off the

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Alan Litchfield
It is just that kind of harm I was talking about and weak protestations from some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. There will be no other way of obtaining the software, and like it or not. Yes, I too got

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook? --Milan Davidović

RE: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidović [mailto:milan.li...@gmail.com] wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost would have been passed on to everybody in

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder

RE: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidović milan.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just

RE: acrobat and reader conflicts

2013-10-06 Thread Jack DeLand
Frankly, I don’t see how Adobe gets away with this. What would be the reaction if the Microsoft Word reader was incompatible with Word? Much bad karma, most likely. Must be the Cool Factor…. which I enjoy. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) |

Re: Adobe was hacked

2013-10-06 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Thanks for the information, Tammy. Amazing that Adobe did not let us know. After resetting my password I logged in to verify that my information (product registrations) was still there. I was using Mozilla Nightly 64-bit. It told me I had no products registered. I contacted Adobe support,

Re: Adobe was hacked

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Getting logins and passwords for a retail site doesn't necessarily allow you to get credit card information. Many sites display only the last four digits. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: I would also add that the Adobe Cloud

Re: FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't know, but dot leaders in an index seems very eccentric and likely to make it much less readable. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:48 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings, I now have my index working properly … I’ll write more on that just as soon as I finish

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to be replaced. Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I had it

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was probably stolen some other way. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as

Re: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are they formatted wrong or missing entirely? If missing, check to make sure you didn't actually set those to some other marker type. That has happened to me many times. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:19 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: My entire index is ready to go,

Re: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft, whereas with a credit card the bank is stuck with any unauthorized charges it allows. Citi and probably other banks let you define a virtual credit card number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.

RE: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Theresa de Valence wrote: One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the card was presented in person, so this may help you too. Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread VLM TechSubs
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The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, folks. The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal with ASAP. My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from American Express and just got off the

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided > with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook? --Milan Davidovi? Sent from my

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? [mailto:milan.lists at gmail.com] wrote: > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield > wrote: > > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been > > provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. > So, per the terms and conditions of your

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost > would have been "passed on to everybody in general". And

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? wrote: >On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > wrote: > > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of > > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost > > would have been "passed

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder *how* much of a

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? wrote: > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > wrote: > > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just > > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. > > Honestly, just asking questions; no other

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place > with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to > be replaced. > > Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are they formatted wrong or missing entirely? If missing, check to make sure you didn't actually set those to some other marker type. That has happened to me many times. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:19 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > My entire index is ready to go, except for 3 entries

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The cost of credit card fraud is apparently not high enough that the US credit card companies think it's worth their while to switch to a more secure system, such as the chip and PIN cards that are standard in Europe.

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was probably stolen some other way. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft, whereas with a credit card the bank is stuck with any unauthorized charges it allows. Citi and probably other banks let you define a "virtual" credit card number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Theresa de Valence wrote: > One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the > card was presented "in person," so this may help you too. Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: > The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was > probably stolen some other way. > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach That totally depends on how good the encryption was. And, we do not

Adobe was hacked

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to > keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge. To which Robert Lauriston said: > Getting logins and passwords for a retail site doesn't necessarily allow you > to get credit

Adobe was hacked

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the locks in your house. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > FWIW, I use different passwords on

acrobat and reader conflicts

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I've frequently encountered problems because different versions of Microsoft Word were incompatible with each other. Nothing much happened to Microsoft as a result. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Jack DeLand wrote: > Frankly, I don?t see how Adobe gets away with this. What would be the >