Hi, Bernard

I like to keep it clean and simple; the shorter the cross-ref the more 
distinctive it is, and the less cluttered the effect (particularly important if 
you need to cross-ref out of a table to a fuller explanation). My cross-refs 
(except for task lists) take the form[s]:

     [For more information] see Section N.N/Figure N-N/Table N-N

I don't reference a page number, unless absolutely necessary.

I use a character style, rather than quotes, to highlight the cross-ref. 
Depending upon context, I may also use brackets.

Cross-refs to task lists are another story, however. Our style guide does not 
allow for numbering the headings of task lists. This causes me immense grief as 
I have no choice but to reference the heading text. It looks ugly and 
cumbersome (especially in contrast with the other cross-refs). The consequence 
is that I have to word the headings to accommodate the way the cross-ref will 
appear. This always feels as though the tool is dictating the content, though, 
which is definitely "base above apex". One of these days I shall rebel...;)

BTW I output to print and pdf only.

Hope this helps

Sue Thomson


-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) 
[mailto:bern...@publishingsmarter.com] 
Sent: 02 December 2016 15:20
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Cross reference format (what do you use?)

Here is a simple question that I'm sure will have a LOT of opinion. I hope...

Building some print-friendly xref formats, and I'm curious what people here 
actually use. We're all familiar with the function (I think) or at least, we 
should be.

You may have text like this:

Chapter 1. Canada
Blah blah
1.A Alberta
Blah blah
1.B New Brunswick
Blah blah

Plus you have tables, figures, equations, sections, examples, steps, etc, etc, 
etc.

You link to stuff like "Canada" or "Chapter 1" or "Chapter 1. Canada" or even 
"Canada on page 23" or whatever. Some xref content may be "See <$paratext>" or 
"<$paranumonly>" or "step <$paranumonly>". You may also choose to put in 
sentences like "For more information see section <$paranumonly> on page\ 
<$pagenum>. " so that it is a self-contained sentence.

I don't know. There are a LOT of ways to xref to stuff though.


My question is this: What would be the top 3 or 4 ways *you* xref something?
Not the steps to insert an xref, but the way it looks in your output.

What does the code or the xref look like? Do you put in full sentence xrefs?
Do you use words in them? Do you use quotes around content? I know that there 
are a bizzilion ways to xref stuff, so input would be greatly appreciated.

Lastly, I'm not concerned about online as that can be changed at publish time. 
What do you do though in the print materials? For example, if I use "For more 
info see pg <$pagenum>. " as a sentence in the online I can just replace it 
with <$paranumonly>, or <@paratext>, or whatever. The issue for me is "what do 
people do for print" in regards to the numbering, text, quotes, etc.

Thanks to all.

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
bern...@publishingsmarter.com

www.publishingsmarter.com

Write Less. Write Better.


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