Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Rick Quatro
FYI: I am currently using FrameMaker 12 to do a structured project for a client. FrameMaker 12 is certainly capable of working with structured documents. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-729-6746 www.frameexpert.com/store/ -Original Message- From: Framers On

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread techwordsmith
I have to stay within  a couple of versions of the latest release to accommodate my tranlation vendors,  who struggle to find older versions of software. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: "Carol J. Elkins" Date: 1/15/20 6:26 PM

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker is a specialist tool for people who want template-driven PDFs (and optionally web help etc.) or who for whatever reason chose FrameMaker as part of their DITA toolchain. Adobe has no incentive to make it more competitive with InDesign as a page-layout program. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Ditto what Mike said. The ONLY reason I'm still sticking with Frame12 is because I have no need for structured documents and there haven't been enough non-structure improvements since FM12 to justify the cost of upgrading. Yes, some would-be-nice-to-haves, but nothing worth the price. The

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Mike Wickham
New versions of FrameMaker always seem to concentrate on adding features for the structured community. I get it. That's the strenght of the program. But the new features I'd like to see involve handling of graphics and type. For example, it would be nice to be able to make a graphic float in

[Framers] PSA: Procrastinated in upgrading to Windows 10? You can still do so for free

2020-01-15 Thread tammyvb
So, yes, I know. . . the end has been near for a while, and officially, yesterday, 1/14/2020, MS ended all support for Windows 7. I loathe updating of any time and held off as long as I could, but luckily, you can still get your upgrade to Windows 10 directly from MS for free. (Certain caveats do

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread TW Smith
Over the years, I've beta tested a few FrameMaker versions. I always test on live projects, which I know isn't the best idea, but it gives me information about how the beta works in the real world. Before the beta concludes, I save my project files as MIF, so I can continue documenting in the

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
FM 2019 was released in August 2018, so if they stick to the ~18-month release cycle they've had for the past ten years, it's about time for the next release. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_FrameMaker#Versions ___ This message is from the Framers

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Lin Sims
My memory for dates is a sieve. Lynne is correct, and if the 18-month cycle holds true, we should see 2020 sometime in March. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:03 PM Lynne A. Price wrote: > I believe that FM 2019 was released in September, 2018--close enough to > 2019 to use the later year in the

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

2020-01-15 Thread Lynne A. Price
I believe that FM 2019 was released in September, 2018--close enough to 2019 to use the later year in the product name.     --Lynne On 1/14/2020 9:16 AM, Lin Sims wrote: IIRC, 2019 was released in January 2019, so expect something in June-ish. -- Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting,

Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

2020-01-15 Thread Lynne A. Price
John,    FM should not crash when you apply Show/Hide settings. Please give us an update and let us know if you experience crashes now that you've switched to using conditional expressions. When you were using the Show/Hide shuttle boxes, did FM always crash when processing the same file? Did

Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

2020-01-15 Thread Lynne A. Price
On 1/14/2020 4:14 PM, John Posada wrote: I also noticed that some tiny snippets got through. like some bullets without content, stuff like that. However, it has potential. John,     You might make sure text symbols are on when you assign the condition tags. If you want to make an entire

[Framers] Why doesn't Table Continuation variable element get closed

2020-01-15 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi, I am using structured FrameMaker 2019 and have Table Continuation variables wrapped in a element. When I save as XML, this element gets output without a closing tag and this causes parser errors. Any idea why? Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com

Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

2020-01-15 Thread John Posada
Hi, guys... In developing the Conditional Expression (first time doing it), is it advisable that within the parens, to list multiple exclusions as "A" or "B", or "A" and "b"? Below I have a portion of my statement where I want to INCLUDE Collis, Amanda but EXCLUDE everyone else (there are a

Re: [Framers] Applying Show/Hide Conditional Settings

2020-01-15 Thread Reng Winfried
Hi John, When there are bullets without content, then the paragraph mark does not have the condition. When this is at the end of a flow (in a table cell or at the end of the main text flow), then add an empty paragraph without condition after the paragraph with the condition. You asked whether