Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced FrameMaker user?

2018-04-18 Thread David Creamer
>>The test shouldn't be to find out if they have Advanced knowledge of FM...it should be an advanced knowledge of what you USE in FM for your book of work. I'm assuming the "you" above is the company one is testing for. Without knowing what the company uses, I would be prepared for anything.

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-18 Thread john . x . posada
The test shouldn't be to find out if they have Advanced knowledge of FM...it should be an advanced knowledge of what you USE in FM for your book of work. Example...I'd fail on the use for GREP... but in my environment, GREP would be of no purpose. You aren't Adobe and looking for a support

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-18 Thread ideaslists
I would look at a number of things... First, is one looking for a technical writer or a strict Frame production person? If the former, writing style is more important than Frame knowledge _IF_ the person has an openness to learn new/different programs and workflow methods. Second, 50% of any

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Lin Sims
gauge how they use the tool for a > document > > that may have unique challenges. I got to see their approach to tags, > empty > > paragraphs, watermarks, variables, or whatever else they felt like > putting > > into it. A great insight. > > > > > >

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Lise Bible
> -Original Message- > From: Framers > [mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com > ] > On Behalf Of Lin Sims > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 9:27 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > Subject: Re: [Fram

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
9:27 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user? That's WORD users who do that! (Finally back in the workforce, currently using Word because until yesterday I was a contractor, not an employee. Hoping

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Lin Sims
That's WORD users who do that! (Finally back in the workforce, currently using Word because until yesterday I was a contractor, not an employee. Hoping they get me Frame soon, because Word is driving me right up a tree.) On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Art Campbell

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
FM templates are a bit difficult. You can be a very advanced user without that. -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 058-763-7133 On 16-Apr-18 11:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: "What's your favorite thing about FrameMaker templates?" is a good question, since templates per se don't exist, and

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Ask them to combine some short documents using single-sourcing features, and see how they do it, whether they use shared book, text insets, variables, etc. But I disagree that it's not important to have a good technical writer, and that it's more important to know FM well. You need both, and

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-17 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I don't know if the suite is the best choice if you are trying to save money. First of all, if you get TCS, every time you upgrade it will probably cost more. (I doubt there is an option to only upgrade FM when you own TCS.) And since you don't really need to upgrade Acrobat, it should be much

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
"What's your favorite thing about FrameMaker templates?" is a good question, since templates per se don't exist, and advanced users have to figure out how to work around that. Also, the sample projects they used to include were produced by someone who didn't know to leave out the generated files.

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Pat Christenson
eve Rickaby Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 11:53 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user? At 10:31 -0600 15/4/18, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >Over the next couple of

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:31 -0600 15/4/18, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and train >an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They will >not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be harder to >recruit and

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Roberta Hennessey
That bad, really? I'm on Oxygen and I really miss FrameMaker though I haven't used it in a few years. It just seemed so much more flexible than other tools I've used. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > Advanced FM users usually have kind of a 1000

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Art Campbell
Advanced FM users usually have kind of a 1000 yard stare... And may have little square marks on their faces from banging their heads on the keyboard. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." --

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
If I had a badly maintained FrameMaker book with a lot of cruft on the reference pages, inconsistent styles, and so on, I'd ask them to identify problems and say how they'd clean them up. I'd ask to see one or more templates they'd created and have them detail the process of creating a new book

Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-15 Thread John Sgammato
Tomorrow afternoon I will go over an exercise that I set up for a new hire. My boss wants to be satisfied that he's competent with FM. I have a doc with some standard and some "advanced" features like text insets. At least a couple of images will fail because they are not in the folder that he's

[Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-15 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and train an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They will not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be harder to recruit and identify someone with the required skills. I've built