Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz 10/07/13 15:31

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10http://comtech-serv.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading! ___ You are

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Rebecca Officer wrote: ? You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10. ? I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for the info, Rebecca! 1. Do

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Robert Lauriston
Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Kindle books do _not_ require a live Internet connection while reading!

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-11 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston said: > Neither do PDFs, which are superior in pretty much every way. Yes, they are good in many ways, but PDFs don't flow across pages as smoothly as Kindle documents on a Kindle when things like the font-size, etc., are changed. Z

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves] On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list. [Yves]

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: > Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. > > Nadine > >> >> This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >> that the sample

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
If you can't find another option, you can have it forwarded to you by this company: http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing They give you a US address to ship it to, and then they forward it to you. There are a few company that do mail forwarding, but I found this one to be the cheapest. It would

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca Your to-do list is pretty accurate. I've added my comments below, preceded by [Yves]>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM, rebecca officer < rebecca.officer at alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: Hi everyone Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate the expertise on this list.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer
What about directly from Comtech Services??http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10 Nadine - Original Message - > From: Alan T Litchfield > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 11:31:49 PM > Subject: Re:

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread rebecca officer
You can buy the electronic version from http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10. I really like ebooks. I'm reading it already. Thanks for your replies, everyone. It's been very helpful! Rebecca >>> Alan T Litchfield 10/07/13 15:31 >>> Unfortunately, that book

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA, you

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread John Sgammato
This article by Bernard Aschwanden on subsetting DITA may help: http://www.stc-siliconvalley.org/newsletter/2006_05/articles/aschwanden-subsetting-dita.htm On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:06 AM, rebecca officer rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote: Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: DITA/docbook vs your own schema Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This distinction between a narrative and topics is a good one. I just worked through a series of manuals that were written as narratives. There was a lot of repeated content and procedures that were actually four or five procedures mixed together and then occurring later with the mixture

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there.

RE: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be simple to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you need

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :( Alan On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote: Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Rebecca I don't think any content maps perfectly to DITA, which is logical. But then again, you can specialize DITA to make it match your content. Some will even say that DITA must be specialized. Others have already given you some good arguments in favor of DITA or DocBook. With DITA, you

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This distinction between a narrative and topics is a good one. I just worked through a series of manuals that were written as narratives. There was a lot of repeated content and procedures that were actually four or five procedures mixed together and then occurring later with the mixture

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about DITA, but all the basics are there.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Craig Ede
Amen to that! Craig -Original Message- And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever changes you

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer
Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA. Nadine > >This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found >that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to >implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we should take

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
portability... Nadine From: Alan Houser a...@groupwellesley.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread rebecca officer
Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off working within the limitations of DITA, or whether we should take

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own schema: Time Money (Hey, someone had to say it?) -Matt On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "rebecca officer" wrote: > Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook > instead of

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Kristy Nolan
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Matt Sullivan
Yes, specialization should be approached delicately. One thing to keep in mind: DITA is (in my opinion) nearly as much philosophy as it is content model. Expect to spend some time understanding what the component pieces are, how they're labeled, and get used to looking at things from a topic

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Alan Houser
I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run into an information modeling project that I can knock off in an afternoon, but that's pretty rare. Remember that you will not only need to model "block" content (topics, headings, paragraphs, lists, etc.), but also tables, cross-references,

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Scott Prentice
All good info. More reasons to use DITA or DocBook is the availability of off-the-shelf authoring, publishing, and file management (CMS) tools. Also, personnel support (authoring and development) .. it is much easier to find people to work on one of the "standards" than your custom model.

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer
en there's portability... Nadine > > From: Alan Houser >To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM >Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema > > > >I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasional

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread John Sgammato
This article by Bernard Aschwanden on subsetting DITA may help: http://www.stc-siliconvalley.org/newsletter/2006_05/articles/aschwanden-subsetting-dita.htm On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:06 AM, rebecca officer < rebecca.officer at alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: > Does anyone know of a nice, clear list

DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Craig Ede
at lists.frameusers.com Subject: DITA/docbook vs your own schema Does anyone know of a nice, clear list of what you save by using DITA/docbook instead of developing your own schema? The content maps reasonably well to DITA, but not perfectly. I'm trying to figure out whether we're better off