FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Malin
Well, FrameMaker 7.1 is driving me crazy again (so what else is new?) I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties in Format > Page Layout > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank page. But every

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Malin
not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mathew Varghese [mailto:mathew.vargh...@citrix.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:30 PM To: Joe Malin; framers at FrameUsers.com Cc: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! Update the pag

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Martha J Davidson
At 04:24 PM 1/24/2006, Joe Malin wrote: >It's a generated file, List of Tables. I am setting its pagination from >the book window, not from within the file itself. Only thing I can think of is to make sure the pagination settings are the same in the file and at the book level. Does that make a di

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the properties from within the component file. Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings. And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
> I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files. > I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate, > which creates a new, "broken" file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart > enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables. >

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided. Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at the book level. Also, Art On 1/2

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One > file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties > in Format > Page Layout > > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank > page. But every time I update the book, this file is se

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
, Inc. -Original Message- From: Klaus Daube [mailto:d...@daube.ch] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:21 AM To: Joe Malin Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! On 24 Jan 2006 at 16:34, Joe Malin wrote: > Well, FrameMaker 7.1 is driving me crazy again (so what else is new?) > &

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Are you saving the files after you change the setting, before you update the second time. And, is the List file set to double-sided pagination? Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the > setting goes back. > > Joe -- Art Campbel

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
lect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:07 AM To: Joe Malin Cc: ddd at daube.ch; framers at frameusers.com; techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: Re: FM driving me crazy! Are you saving

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
Save it. ;-) On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to > double-sided in the Pagination dialog. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner 42.8162,-73.7736 http://techcommdood.blogspot.com I supp

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
s.com; ddd at daube.ch; techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: Re: FM driving me crazy! Save it. ;-) On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set > to double-sided in the Pagination dialog.

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list > file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. > Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or are you creating a new one each time you generate? If the latter, that would explain

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Joe, Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save, you lose. Cheers, Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, > but now they work. Thanks

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
l.com Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set > to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. > Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or are you creating a new on

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Ridder, Fred
rom: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joe Malin Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:00 PM To: Combs, Richard Cc: framers at frameusers.com; techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: RE: FM drivin

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Malin
Well, FrameMaker 7.1 is driving me crazy again (so what else is new?) I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties in Format > Page Layout > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank page. But every

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Malin
ssarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mathew Varghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:30 PM To: Joe Malin; framers@FrameUsers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! Update the pagination for the whole book.

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-24 Thread Martha J Davidson
At 04:24 PM 1/24/2006, Joe Malin wrote: It's a generated file, List of Tables. I am setting its pagination from the book window, not from within the file itself. Only thing I can think of is to make sure the pagination settings are the same in the file and at the book level. Does that make a d

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the properties from within the component file. Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings. And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
> I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files. > I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate, > which creates a new, "broken" file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart > enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables. >

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided. Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at the book level. Also, Art On 1/2

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One > file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties > in Format > Page Layout > > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank > page. But every time I update the book, this file is s

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
, Inc. -Original Message- From: Klaus Daube [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:21 AM To: Joe Malin Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! On 24 Jan 2006 at 16:34, Joe Malin wrote: > Well, FrameMaker 7.1 is driving me crazy again (so what else is new?)

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Are you saving the files after you change the setting, before you update the second time. And, is the List file set to double-sided pagination? Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the > setting goes back. > >

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
lect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:07 AM To: Joe Malin Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FM driving me crazy! Are you saving the files after you

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
Save it. ;-) On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to > double-sided in the Pagination dialog. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner 42.8162,-73.7736 http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FM driving me crazy! Save it. ;-) On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set > to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. __

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list > file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. > Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or are you creating a new one each time you generate? If the latter, that would explai

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Joe, Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save, you lose. Cheers, Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, > but now

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: Joe Malin Cc: framers@frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FM drivi

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Ridder, Fred
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Malin Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:00 PM To: Combs, Richard Cc: framers@frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FM driving me crazy! Oh yeah I save them. In fact, when I'm initially creating a generated file, I d