Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Exactly how are you inserting the images into the FrameMaker document? On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: When the images are inserted into the FrameMaker document and ___ You are currently

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
Maybe FrameMaker 7 is passing part of the drop shadow information unchanged because of something added to Illustrator after 2002 that it doesn't know how to process. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At 11:55 -0700 12/3/13, Robert Lauriston

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
I tried ensuring that the drop shadow was created by a filer rather than an effect, and imported the illustration as a PDF. The problem remained. I then tried importing as an .eps: problem fixed. So it seems to be specific to an interaction between Illustrator drop shadows, FrameMaker's

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
First off, I'm glad you found a workaround. EPS, AI, and PDF are all essentially the same file with different options, so I still wonder what the main issue is. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 13,

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread David Creamer
By me, in Illustrator (CS2). I then tried importing as an .eps: problem fixed. Coming into this late, but I believe this is an Illustrator issue, which has been solved with newer versions. InDesign used to have the same problem: PDF and AI would generate 4 seps even for black-only images; EPS

RE: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Dov Isaacs
. There is no need to feel guilty about printing! Paper is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:04 AM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:52 -0700 13/3/13, David Creamer wrote: Coming into this late, but I believe this is an Illustrator issue, which has been solved with newer versions. InDesign used to have the same problem: PDF and AI would generate 4 seps even for black-only images; EPS would work properly. That would

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
is renewable and recyclable. ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:04 AM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update First off, I'm glad you

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
I tried ensuring that the drop shadow was created by a filer rather than an effect, and imported the illustration as a PDF. The problem remained. I then tried importing as an .eps: problem fixed. So it seems to be specific to an interaction between Illustrator drop shadows, FrameMaker's

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
First off, I'm glad you found a workaround. EPS, AI, and PDF are all essentially the same file with different options, so I still wonder what the main issue is. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 13,

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread David Creamer
>>By me, in Illustrator (CS2). >I then tried importing as an .eps: problem fixed. Coming into this late, but I believe this is an Illustrator issue, which has been solved with newer versions. InDesign used to have the same problem: PDF and AI would generate 4 seps even for black-only images; EPS

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Dov Isaacs
ubject: Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update First off, I'm glad you found a workaround. EPS, AI, and PDF are all essentially the same file with different options, so I still wonder what the main issue is. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning t

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:52 -0700 13/3/13, David Creamer wrote: >Coming into this late, but I believe this is an Illustrator issue, which has >been solved with newer versions. InDesign used to have the same problem: PDF >and AI would generate 4 seps even for black-only images; EPS would work >properly. That

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:29 -0700 13/3/13, Dov Isaacs wrote: > If this happened with the current FrameMaker release and you are able to (1) > repeat the problem and (2) share the files with Adobe, I would advise you to > report this as a serious bug. Thanks Dov. No... I'm on ancient versions here, Acrobat Pro 6

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem: update

2013-03-13 Thread Matt Sullivan
free to print this e-mail if your needs dictate hard copy. > There is no need to feel guilty about printing! > Paper is renewable and recyclable. > > ISAACS-OFFICE.corp.adobe.com > > > > From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Steve, Where were the drop shadows created? -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: I have a bizarre preflight problem.

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:39 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: Where were the drop shadows created? By me, in Illustrator (CS2). I've had problems with crop shadows created in other applications, but I don't remember having any with Illustrator. In all cases the Color - Grayscale filter was applied to the

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:39 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: Where were the drop shadows created? As you sort of hinted, remove the drop shadow and the problem goes away. But why? As the illustrations preflight ok on their own, why is the drop shadow apparently causing FrameMaker to create this artifact? I

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Wickham
Try saving the drop shadows as EPS. (I use EPS for all my FrameMaker graphics.) FrameMaker seems to handle EPS graphics best of all-- except that the preview is low resolution. I've used EPS drop shadows that I created in Photoshop without problems. Mike Wickham

Re: FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:22 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: I used to have 4/c issues with PS-generated drop shadows, so it wasn't too much of a stretch to think that was the problem. Is the d/s an effect, or a filter? Filters will likely give you more control and less problems. In Illustrator it can be

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
I have a bizarre preflight problem. A (grayscale) book with a great many line art illustrations has four (only) that use the same three clip-art images of cartoon characters. I have reduced all color information in these images to grayscale and preflighted them in Acrobat to ensure that there

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Steve, Where were the drop shadows created? -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | online training | eLearning twitter: @mattrsullivan phone: 714 960-6840 On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > I have a bizarre preflight problem. A (grayscale) book with a great

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:39 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: > >Where were the drop shadows created? By me, in Illustrator (CS2). I've had problems with crop shadows created in other applications, but I don't remember having any with Illustrator. In all cases the Color -> Grayscale filter was applied to the

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:39 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: >Where were the drop shadows created? As you sort of hinted, remove the drop shadow and the problem goes away. But why? As the illustrations preflight ok on their own, why is the drop shadow apparently causing FrameMaker to create this artifact? I

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Wickham
Try saving the drop shadows as EPS. (I use EPS for all my FrameMaker graphics.) FrameMaker seems to handle EPS graphics best of all-- except that the preview is low resolution. I've used EPS drop shadows that I created in Photoshop without problems. Mike Wickham

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Matt Sullivan
For all practical purposes, AI=PDF=AI, so I doubt that's the issue. I used to have 4/c issues with PS-generated drop shadows, so it wasn't too much of a stretch to think that was the problem. Is the d/s an effect, or a filter? Filters will likely give you more control and less problems. You

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:22 -0700 12/3/13, Matt Sullivan wrote: >I used to have 4/c issues with PS-generated drop shadows, so it wasn't too >much of a stretch to think that was the problem. Is the d/s an effect, or a >filter? Filters will likely give you more control and less problems. In Illustrator it can be

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:55 -0700 12/3/13, Robert Lauriston wrote: >Exactly how are you "inserting" the images into the FrameMaker document"? By reference, always. -- Steve

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Exactly how are you "inserting" the images into the FrameMaker document"? On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > When the images are inserted into the FrameMaker document and

FrameMaker-specific preflight problem

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Maybe FrameMaker 7 is passing part of the drop shadow information unchanged because of something added to Illustrator after 2002 that it doesn't know how to process. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 11:55 -0700 12/3/13, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >>Exactly how are you