Hi all,
RE: Merging books
The situation:
I have a client who has a large number of FM (7.2/8) books. From amongst
these books, there are two particular sets of books, as follows:
Set #1. Two books having about 50 - 60% identical content (each book is
~100 pages)
Set #2. Four books having
Avraham,
Question 2:
I handle this pretty routinely, and I do it by creating a directory
for each document set. Under that I have a subdirectory for \Graphics,
\Shared, and \Book -- obviously there are several \Book directories
with different names, but the graphics and shared content are used by
Thanks, Art.
(a) So you would use the same method for both Set #1 and Set #2?
(b) re: \Shared - You make \Shared contain FM files only?
(c) re: \Graphics - Often many graphics are not shared. So I suppose in that
case you would have a 'Shared Graphics' folder, but also a
separate \Graphics
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Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
The penny just dropped ... I noticed that you did not recommend (or even
suggest) making them into book and using Conditional Text, even the Set #2
which has the books (four) having about only 10% identical content.
Why, may I ask, did you not recommend Conditional Text?
avraham
On Tue, Oct
You certainly could go that route.
However, you'll also notice that I didn't exclude using CT at all. I
use both shared content and CT, together, on most document set level
projects. I usually use shared content to manage large chunks of
information, and CT to manage smaller items within either
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
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To: Avraham Makeler
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Subject: Re: Merging books: Need FM mechanisms and methodologies for merging
books with large
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed, it's
appropriate to make certain you estimate ENOUGH time to do the job.
What you are presenting is something that I would not contemplate in a
couple of days.
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if I
had no familiarity with them, I would estimate the time for completion at 5
pages an hour.
and if I had no familiarity with them
The SME said he will be doing the job of marking (in a PDF or in a Word
export) which blocks
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed,
Good point of course. I already insisted that this is something that they
must postpone until **after** the delivery deadline.
I would estimate the time for completion at 5 pages an hour.
Hmmm .. so that's 20 hours per 100
In addition, there is also the possibility of migrating everything
from FM to Word floating around at this particular client. So there is
never much point in making a big investment in FM book restructuring.
Argh ... they should re-think this possibility.
While I had been an early FrameMaker
It better to estimate the worst case, rather than best case scenario.
You could find that your conversion/merge goes much faster, in which
case you are a hero. If you estimate too little and miss your delivery
date, you are a villain.
If they go to Word, then there won't be any sharing of
Avraham,
Question 2:
I handle this pretty routinely, and I do it by creating a directory
for each document set. Under that I have a subdirectory for \Graphics,
\Shared, and \Book -- obviously there are several \Book directories
with different names, but the graphics and shared content are used by
Thanks, Art.
(a) So you would use the same method for both Set #1 and Set #2?
(b) re: \Shared - You make \Shared contain FM files only?
(c) re: \Graphics - Often many graphics are not shared. So I suppose in that
case you would have a 'Shared Graphics' folder, but also a
separate \Graphics
Replies cut in below...
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
The penny just dropped ... I noticed that you did not recommend (or even
suggest) making them into book and using Conditional Text, even the Set #2
which has the books (four) having about only 10% identical content.
Why, may I ask, did you not recommend Conditional Text?
avraham
On Tue, Oct
You certainly could go that route.
However, you'll also notice that I didn't exclude using CT at all. I
use both shared content and CT, together, on most document set level
projects. I usually use shared content to manage large chunks of
information, and CT to manage smaller items within either
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:23 AM
To: Avraham Makeler
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Merging books: Need FM mechanisms and methodologies for mer
I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed, it's
appropriate to make certain you estimate ENOUGH time to do the job.
What you are presenting is something that I would not contemplate in a
couple of days.
For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if
>> For a two books to be combined, both approximately 100 pages, and if I
had no familiarity with them, I would estimate the time for completion at 5
pages an hour.
>> and if I had no familiarity with them
The SME said he will be doing the job of marking (in a PDF or in a Word
export) which
>> I will jump in and mention that to avoid a deadline being missed,
Good point of course. I already insisted that this is something that they
must postpone until **after** the delivery deadline.
>> I would estimate the time for completion at 5 pages an hour.
Hmmm .. so that's 20 hours per 100
> In addition, there is also the "possibility of migrating everything
from FM to Word" floating around at this particular client. So there is
never much point in making a big investment in FM book restructuring.
Argh ... they should re-think this "possibility".
While I had been an early
It better to estimate the worst case, rather than best case scenario.
You could find that your conversion/merge goes much faster, in which
case you are a hero. If you estimate too little and miss your delivery
date, you are a villain.
If they go to Word, then there won't be any sharing of
Avraham,
In addition to Scott's good advice
You need to factor in some of your own learning curve time. I seem to
remember from earlier posts that you're a relative novice with Frame
(forgive me if I'm mis-remembering), but the first time you do any of
this stuff, you're likely to take twice
Hi all,
RE: Merging books
The situation:
I have a client who has a large number of FM (7.2/8) books. From amongst
these books, there are two particular sets of books, as follows:
Set #1. Two books having about 50 - 60% identical content (each book is
~100 pages)
Set #2. Four books having
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