Recall: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Grant Hogarth
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RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Grant Hogarth
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted web At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GHTo build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GHThere also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH E.g. If your

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Grant Hogarth
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH>> E.g. "If

Recall: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Grant Hogarth
Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, "OT: Syntax for if/then statement".

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Grant Hogarth
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. GH>> E.g.

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-30 Thread Stuart Rogers
Grant Hogarth wrote: > On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted > web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, > wrote: > GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: ... > Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Swallow
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that manner. If you want icecream, and then you buy some. Makes absolutely no sense. Time

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. Boy are you going to have fun with your new

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al. LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!) and go from there. Thanks for all of

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Martha J Davidson
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. Tammy, I think your editor is overreacting

RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Beck, Charles
-Original Message- Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one

Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread eric . dunn
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM: If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the constructs in any programming language that I can remember working in. While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect to the addition of an AND clause to

RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Briggs
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. E.g. If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you [will/can/must/shall/may/ought

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If , then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - >if , AND then . Both I and the other >writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just >if/then - no "and."

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Swallow
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that manner. If you want icecream, and then you buy some. Makes absolutely no sense. Time

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the >editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and." Boy are you going

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al. LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!) and go from there. Thanks for all of

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Martha J Davidson
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such >statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other >writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - >no "and." Tammy, I think your

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Swallow
But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-) On 6/29/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as > some of you were in your emails (the

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Beck, Charles
Cheers, Chuck Beck -Original Message----- Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if ><blah, blah>, AND then <blah,

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM: > If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the > constructs in any programming language that I can remember working > in. While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect to the addition of an AND clause to

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
You need to replace your new editor! Eek. Here are some references that *might* be helpful, although none of them *directly* answer your question. http://users.ipfw.edu/blythes/teach/toolkit/dc.htm http://grammar.uoregon.edu/clauses/dependent.html

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread T.W. Smith
I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to discussion because she's a member of the team. Anyway: 1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way. However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating conjunctions to

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Briggs
At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote: >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between: >- If A, and then B >and >- If A and B From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in programming languages the first variant would

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Grant Hogarth
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you [will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..." - If A, then B (explicit consequence,

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Briggs
At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote: >2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click >New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click >New." But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of instructions:

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Briggs
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote: >To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse: > >There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action. > E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you >

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

2006-06-29 Thread eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM: > At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote: > >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between: > >- If A, and then B > >and > >- If A and B > From the point of view of someone who is used to such