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statement.
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On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GHTo build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GHThere also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH E.g. If your
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g. "If
Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, "OT: Syntax for if/then
statement".
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g.
Grant Hogarth wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
> web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
> wrote:
> GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
...
> Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah,
blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the
editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and.
Boy are you going to have fun with your new
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word and to such
statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other
writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
no and.
Tammy,
I think your editor is overreacting
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Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if
blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer
disagree with the editor on this one
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought
All,
I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If ,
then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements -
>if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just
>if/then - no "and."
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the
>editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and."
Boy are you going
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such
>statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
>no "and."
Tammy,
I think your
But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these
e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-)
On 6/29/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
> LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
> some of you were in your emails (the
Cheers,
Chuck Beck
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Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if
><blah, blah>, AND then <blah,
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
> If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
> constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
> in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
You need to replace your new editor! Eek.
Here are some references that *might* be helpful, although none of them
*directly* answer your question.
http://users.ipfw.edu/blythes/teach/toolkit/dc.htm
http://grammar.uoregon.edu/clauses/dependent.html
I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to
discussion because she's a member of the team.
Anyway:
1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way.
However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating
conjunctions to
At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
>Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
>- If A, and then B
>and
>- If A and B
From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
programming languages the first variant would
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
- If A, then B (explicit consequence,
At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote:
>2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click
>New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click
>New."
But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of
instructions:
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
>
>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
> E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
>
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM:
> At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
> >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
> >- If A, and then B
> >and
> >- If A and B
> From the point of view of someone who is used to such
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