Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>computer display in preference to printing it for use? ...
Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are
-- the extent to which the PDF is &quo
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
To: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com; framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>compute
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
To: kmcdan...@pavtech.com; fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>computer display in p
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> To: kmcdan...@pavtech.com; fram...@frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
>
> Kelly,
>
> You wrote:
>
> >Qui
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
> To: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com; framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
>
> Kelly,
>
> You wrote:
>
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Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>computer display in preference to printing it for use? ...
Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are
-- the extent to which the PDF is &quo
Dear Kelly McDaniel,
In my experience working in the IT and telecommunications field, PDFs are
used almost exclusively. The only time I have seen hard copies used is
during eLearning courses, but that's a different context (though related)
than technical documentation.
Here's why. I am writing t
Our model is to supply help for online viewing, and a PDF that is
optimized for printing.
Barry
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vey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technica
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on
similar it
doesn't get printed although selected pages might.
Alan
On 23/01/2009, at 5:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
lto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> John Sgammato
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
> To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
>
> Well, for what it's worth, my German service e
Dear Kelly McDaniel,
In my experience working in the IT and telecommunications field, PDFs are
used almost exclusively. The only time I have seen hard copies used is
during eLearning courses, but that's a different context (though related)
than technical documentation.
Here's why. I am writing t
mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> John Sgammato
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
> To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
>
> Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer
similar it
doesn't get printed although selected pages might.
Alan
On 23/01/2009, at 5:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
s.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:37 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed book
Swallow
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than
At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
wrote:
>> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
>> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
>> that we ignorant Americans will
I can't speak for users but I prefer online for search and indexing.
Paper just contributes to clutter, which I have more than my fair
share of.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel
wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF do
Robert Shelton wrote:
> What you say may very well be true, though I'd be reluctant to say
that
> a tree farm = forested land. However, the cite you give is from John
> Stossel, who is hardly unbiased when it comes to reporting
environmental
> issues. Again, it may be true, but I'd take it with a
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our
German
> >> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema,
proof
>
nuary 22, 2009 3:06 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
My experience is that my users prefer viewing PDFs, preferring PDF over
paper.
We shifted from delivering paper operating manuals to delivering PDFs on
CD a years ago. We were worried at first, b
Robert Shelton wrote:
> What you say may very well be true, though I'd be reluctant to say
that
> a tree farm = forested land. However, the cite you give is from John
> Stossel, who is hardly unbiased when it comes to reporting
environmental
> issues. Again, it may be true, but I'd take it with
s at lists.frameusers.com
01/22/2009 11:40 AM
To
cc
Subject
PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M.
m] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:37 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed books, f
Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our
German
> >> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema,
proof
>
At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
>> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
>> that we ignorant Americans will d
I can't speak for users but I prefer online for search and indexing.
Paper just contributes to clutter, which I have more than my fair
share of.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF do
Scott Prentice wrote (in small part):
>Searching in a PDF is a fairly useless > operation as well, which is
> another reason I prefer to use other types > of online docs.
Actually, I find Acrobat's search operation, with it's list of results
showing some of the surrounding context, to be ver
nuary 22, 2009 3:06 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
My experience is that my users prefer viewing PDFs, preferring PDF over
paper.
We shifted from delivering paper operating manuals to delivering PDFs on
CD a years ago. We were worried at first, but needlessly so
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer
Our model is to supply help for online viewing, and a PDF that is
optimized for printing.
Barry
@lists.frameusers.com
01/22/2009 11:40 AM
To
cc
Subject
PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. M
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on
> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
> that we ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order.
Huh? Is there is a shortage of trees in America?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinion
7;52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users v
On 22 Jan 2009, at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
> If it's hardware based, like how to install something -- either
> computer or,
> say, room lights, I'd expect it to be printed.
Just a few days ago, my MacBook Pro wouldn't finish booting.
Fortunately, I had previously installed Applejack, p
experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
>
>
> Pavilion Technologies
>
> A Rockwell Automation Company
Scott Prentice wrote (in small part):
>Searching in a PDF is a fairly useless > operation as well, which is
> another reason I prefer to use other types > of online docs.
Actually, I find Acrobat's search operation, with it's list of results
showing some of the surrounding context, to be ve
uick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical
uick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
>
>
> Pavilion Technologies
>
> A Rockwell Automation Company
>
>
>
>
vey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technica
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display
On 22 Jan 2009, at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
> If it's hardware based, like how to install something -- either
> computer or,
> say, room lights, I'd expect it to be printed.
Just a few days ago, my MacBook Pro wouldn't finish booting.
Fortunately, I had previously installed Applejack, p
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell Automation
> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
> that we ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order.
Huh? Is there is a shortage of trees in America?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and
7;52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view
experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
>
>
> P
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell
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