Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
First, figure out your standard cross-reference style. See Appendix D See Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters," See Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters," on p. 247 See "Frying Pans and Toasters" on p. 247 Whatever it's going to be, standardize as much as you can. Think about whether the styl

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Les Smalley
I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters.") The biggest issue with the second format is if the text being cited includes punctuation itself.  My prefe

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:33:19 -0500 (CDT), Nancy Allison wrote: >I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to >avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different >punctuation. > . . . >What is your solution? Simple; I follow International English (UK) usage, an

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Les Smalley wrote: > I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered > bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix > D, "Frying Pans and Toasters.") > > The biggest issue with the second format is if th

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Art Campbell
You can also make the punctuation and quotation marks a moot point by italicizing the book title, chapter title, heading, or other object, which would greatly reduce the number of cross-refs that you need. If it was me, I'd think about two templates with identically names cross-ref formats -- one

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Nancy Allison
Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd expect a great honking treatment of this subject, but I'm not seeing it. All the cross-reference i9nformation is presented with reference to indexes and bibliographies. The sections referring to cross-refer

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread David Spreadbury
inal Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the C

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
Book titles are italicized, but chapter titles (and titles of book sections, figures, tables, etc.) are normally set in quotes. Italicizing these features is a bad hack, putting the needs of the writer ahead of those of the user. I'm curious: could your two-template approach be automatable usin

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Kelly McDaniel
amers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd ex

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Sharon Burton
essage- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Ma

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote: > I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having > to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. You know > (x-ref is inside the underscores): > > ---See __Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters,"__  for more information. > (X-r

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Feimster
--Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 PM To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Given that more and more

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Sharon Burton
using to create her other output. Mike -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 PM To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-re

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Matt Sullivan
amers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:48 PM To: 'Mike Feimster'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Right now she's doing print. But in 6 months? I like to build for this possibility. And I

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all. I should have specified that my Framemaker template will be used to produce both PDFs and compiled help files. After a discussion on techwr-l or possibly this list, I decided to keep figure and table numbers in my online cross-references, but not page numbers. I currently append "

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I use bold for referencing sections, instead of quotation marks. It makes things much simpler as far where to put the comma, and this style seems to be popular. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Nancy Allison wrote: > Once more, this time with content! > > For your tech

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Art Campbell
I believe an option within MIF2Go allows you to automagically impose a template of your choice on a book, so the conversion between multiple output types is transparent. Haven't played with it in a while, though, but I think it's still there... Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.c

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:23:06 -0400, Art Campbell wrote: >I believe an option within MIF2Go allows you to automagically impose a >template of your choice on a book, so the conversion between multiple >output types is transparent. Haven't played with it in a while, >though, but I think it's still t