Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened

2012-10-03 Thread quills
I was lazy and didn't want to reinvent the wheel, so I took DOCBOOK and modified the EDD to make it format the way we wanted. Of course with heading resetting the numbering system I wanted an automatic way to apply the heading formats without reverting to manually setting attributes. I

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
No, in some cases I use maps in RoboHelp or MIF2Go, in others I use text insets in files with different definitions of the paragraph tags. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: You can change the paragraph formats by importing templates with different formats

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-18 Thread Craig Ede
Subject: Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats No, in some cases I use maps in RoboHelp or MIF2Go, in others I use text insets in files with different definitions of the paragraph tags. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote: You can

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-14 Thread Fred Wersan
I think the answer to your question is somewhere between No and It Depends, but closer to No. It gets back to the structure vs. display issue. FrameMaker tries to give you both the XML world and the WYSIWYG world in one package. A more typical XML editor (like the new XML view in Frame 11) is

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-14 Thread Craig Ede
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:14 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats You don't need to use structured FM for that. My paragraph tags map to different

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-13 Thread Fred Wersan
Just my two cents on this. There is no right answer. Depends where you want the control to be and maybe your philosophical approach - as in no formatting in the EDD. When I went structured, it was an opportunity to reduce paragraph format bloat. I analyzed what I needed, pared down the

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-13 Thread Rick Quatro
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Wersan Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats Just my

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-13 Thread rebecca officer
- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Wersan Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats Just my two cents

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining, paragraph formats

2012-09-13 Thread Robert Lauriston
You don't need to use structured FM for that. My paragraph tags map to different formats / tags depending on whether the output is PDF, Web help, Confluence XHTML, or 7-bit ASCII with layout. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Fred Wersan fwer...@mak.com wrote: A previous respondent said: The

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I thought the idea was to format via the EDD, only.  Users should never just apply pgf formatting, because it will get lost (as you describe).  Structure demands template dictatorship on steroids...  Or rather, it imposes it.  To add new pgf formats, and to set up users to apply them, you would

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened

2012-09-11 Thread Scott Prentice
Also .. it wasn't clear to me (I may have missed it) if these structured files are sourced as XML or FM binaries. If structured FM binaries, local (non-EDD) formatting will generally stick around, but can revert to the EDD-defined formats under certain situations. Personally, I find that the

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened

2012-09-10 Thread Gillian Flato
Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened Hello Again All, The project that I was working on below (created structured templates and EDD for use to convert unstructured to structured Frame) is now in the hands of the end users. They are having

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats - Re-opened

2012-09-08 Thread Lisa Freeman
in advance! Lisa From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: 07 04, 2012 10:59 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats SOLVED Hello All, Rick

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats SOLVED

2012-07-04 Thread Lisa Freeman
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman Sent: 07 03, 2012 8:24 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Rick, I unwrapped a few para elements and then imported

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Lisa, Try this: after you wrap a few elements, choose File Import Element Definitions. Check the Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import. Does that give you the correct formatting for each element? Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Kristy Nolan
Hi, Lisa! Is your EDD set up with all of the paragraph formatting or do you have a separate style sheet? We have used both methods (and a hybrid) here. You may have conflicting formatting rules that are causing the problems. Kristy From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Quatro
I may put a picture of my chest in my signature. From: Lynn Gold [mailto:lg...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:24 PM To: Rick Quatro Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com; 'Lisa Freeman' Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Emily
Freeman' Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Yup, that's our Rick -- contributing to the list as if nothing ever happened. Way to go, and welcome back! --Lynn ___ You are currently subscribed to framers

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Combs, Richard
@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com; 'Lisa Freeman' Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Yup, that's our Rick -- contributing to the list as if nothing ever happened. Way to go, and welcome back! --Lynn

Re: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
*To:* Rick Quatro *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com; 'Lisa Freeman' *Subject:* RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats ** ** Yup, that's our Rick -- contributing to the list as if nothing ever happened. Way to go

RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats

2012-07-03 Thread Lisa Freeman
AM To: Lisa Freeman; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph formats Hi Lisa, Try this: after you wrap a few elements, choose File Import Element Definitions. Check the Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import. Does