Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
id nothing that disagrees with that. -Fred Ridder From: david.da...@invensys.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:29:32 -0500 Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Fred, one o

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-14 Thread Harro de Jong
Craig Ede wrote: Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to know the difference between a crash and a FrameMaker is not responding message. The latter means Wait until I complete this task. The former is accompanied by a crash message and exiting from

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-14 Thread Davis, David
Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! 4 GB of RAM may be of no use to FrameMaker if it's the only application open, but if you have other applications open and you only have 4 GB, wouldn't those other application be competing for the same 4

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Davis, David
I'd second the advice that anti-virus software is something to look for as a culprit for these crashes! (I must say that, in corporate network environments, I've had orders of magnitude greater losses in productivity from damned anti-virus software than from ever getting an actual virus :)

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Davis, David
...@iinet.net.au, framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Message-ID: bay171-w98706b7f8ec1559036865cba...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 But the application is not the only thing using memory. Even if a 32-bit

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Coe, David E
I run FM11 on Win7 Enterprise 32bit, 4gb RAM and also on Win7 Ultimate 64bit, 8gb RAM and suffer few crashes. The majority of crashes I have suffered is when I have a book with .xml children whether I was using a network share or locally. When the .xml files were converted to .fm files, most

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Rick Quatro
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Fred, one of the most basic functions of an operating system is to be able to manage memory (without crashing!) :) Simply because applications might all want more memory on the go at one time than is physically available, should not mean

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Fred Ridder
it is true that one of the most basic functions of an OS is memory management. I said nothing that disagrees with that. -Fred Ridder From: david.da...@invensys.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:29:32 -0500 Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Fred, one

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Davis, David
with the company's IT procurement folks. David -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: 13 August 2013 14:58 To: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! You can disagree if you want, but those of us with heavy

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Craig Ede
Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to know the difference between a crash and a FrameMaker is not responding message. The latter means Wait until I complete this task. The former is accompanied by a crash message and exiting from FrameMaker. Very seldom do I see

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-13 Thread Scott Turner
We operate from network server drive, and have experienced the very same problems while using Win 7 FM 11. It isn't really a problem with FM, it's a server problem involving latency on the server. If you look at the resulting files after a crash you may see son with stable, apparently random

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-11 Thread Matt Sullivan
e never saw a crash. But that was FMv5.5.CraigWin7, 8GBFrom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John PosadaSent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PMTo: Ken PoshedlyCc: FrameUsers ListSubject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!Ive been on FM11 and W

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-11 Thread Alan Houser
I think it's fair to say that FrameMaker never crashes _for you_. However, given my (somewhat different) experience with the stability of FrameMaker 11, I'm sensitive about having our concerns dismissed. :-) Stability of FrameMaker seems to vary greatly depending on the source files being

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-10 Thread John Sgammato
Hi Ken, I have used FM11 unstructured on Win7 with files on the network since FM11 was released. I have no problems. Maybe your files are too big with the embedded ages? On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Ken Poshedly wrote: Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the

a different experience RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-10 Thread Craig Ede
I have used FM 11 with Windows 7 working on files from a network for months and, while not crash free, I have experienced relatively few crashes. The first patch that adobe released help a lot with printing issues. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-10 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Ken, One option that you have is to put your files in a SVN repository. If you do this, then checked out files will be local to the person's computer and there's no issue with network latency etc. You can certainly do the check out to an external hard drive to if that's needed. Once the user

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-10 Thread Craig Ede
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-10 Thread Art Campbell
, August 09, 2013 3:40 PM To: Ken Poshedly Cc: FrameUsers List Subject: Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
contention for memory resources even if it can only access 1/2 or 1/3 of the total memory available to the OS. -Fred Ridder Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:23:55 +1200 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com From: hele...@iinet.net.au Subject: RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM! At 01:32 a.m. 10/08

Re: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-09 Thread John Posada
Ive been on FM11 and Win7 since maybe Feb and have not crashed once. On Aug 9, 2013 12:50 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net wrote: Due to the addition of 2 new contract writers and the replacement of the hard drive in an existing terminal in my department, we're now stuck with Windows 7

RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-09 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
To add to the chorus: I have been using Windows 7 (64 bit) and FrameMaker 11 for over two years now - that OS should not be a reason for concern per se. So, if you all are getting new systems with fully patched versions of Windows 7 and FrameMaker 11, you should be fine. And, as others have

a different experience RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

2013-08-09 Thread Craig Ede
I have used FM 11 with Windows 7 working on files from a network for months and, while not crash free, I have experienced relatively few crashes. The first patch that adobe released help a lot with printing issues. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at