The main problem with overrides is that it will make
changes later that will be difficult to find and/or fix.
Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
individually?
Is there a way to remove all overrides from a document in a single
operation? I guess one way is to
Search Google for hunt overrides
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:44 AM, David Shaked (Wernick) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The main problem with overrides is that it will make
changes later that will be difficult to find and/or fix.
Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each
One way to find overrides is to create a special template that is
identicial to your standard template, but with all fonts set to a bright
colour you don't normally use. When you apply the special template, the
overrides show up as unchanged black text.
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote:
The main
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote:
Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
individually?
Silicon Prarie's Paragraph Tools and Character Tools do this (among many
other things).
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
Is there a way to remove all overrides from a
Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
individually?
Hunt Overrides (free):
http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/
Character Tools:
Paragraph Tools:
Table Tools:
http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/
These plugins are very cheap, contain lots of other useful
If I'm writing a typical user manual, my preferred solution for pagination
overrides is to float tables and figures. Floating rarely produces pagination
problems--that's the main purpose of floating, as far as I can tell. I give
tables and figures numbered titles and I'm careful to cite each one
Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks,
but I too have encountered people who insist that the figure must
always immediately follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand
where this rule originated?
In Framemaker, setting them up requires a bit more effort. To
Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I too
have encountered people who insist that the figure must always immediately
follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand where this rule
originated?
I don’t know where the rule came from. Probably from
, July 11, 2008 4:23 PM
To: 'Framers'
Subject: RE: Floating figures and tables was RE: question about overrides
Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I
too have encountered people who insist that the figure must always
immediately follow the reference. Can anyone
> The main problem with overrides is that it will make
> changes later that will be difficult to find and/or fix.
Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
individually?
Is there a way to remove all overrides from a document in a single
operation? I guess one way is
Search Google for "hunt overrides"
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:44 AM, David Shaked (Wernick)
wrote:
> > The main problem with overrides is that it will make
> > changes later that will be difficult to find and/or fix.
>
> Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
>
One way to find overrides is to create a special template that is
identicial to your standard template, but with all fonts set to a bright
colour you don't normally use. When you apply the special template, the
overrides show up as unchanged black text.
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote:
>> The
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote:
> Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
> individually?
Silicon Prarie's Paragraph Tools and Character Tools do this (among many
other things).
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
> Is there a way to remove all overrides from a
> Is there a way to find overrides, other than examining each paragraph
> individually?
Hunt Overrides (free):
http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/
Character Tools:
Paragraph Tools:
Table Tools:
http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/
These plugins are very cheap, contain lots of other
If I'm writing a typical user manual, my preferred solution for pagination
overrides is to float tables and figures. Floating rarely produces pagination
problems--that's the main purpose of floating, as far as I can tell. I give
tables and figures numbered titles and I'm careful to cite each one
Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks,
but I too have encountered people who insist that the figure must
always immediately follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand
where this rule originated?
In Framemaker, setting them up requires a bit more effort. To
> Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I too
> have encountered people who insist that the figure must always immediately
> follow the reference. Can anyone help me understand where this rule
> originated?
I don?t know where the rule came from. Probably from
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Subject: RE: Floating figures and tables was RE: question about overrides
> Floating figures and tables are useful for automating page breaks, but I
too have encountered people who insist that the figure must alw
I don't see how it's possible to develop a template that gives you a
flawless page. I find it's a judgment call to decide how many rows of a
particular table to keep on a page or to move to the next page.
Is it possible to tell FM that if there are 5 or less rows in a table,
move the whole
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Hi all, good morning.
FM 8.0, XP.
This is really a best practices question.
A couple
Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
Is it possible to tell FM that if there are 5 or less rows in a table,
move the whole table to the next page?
Yes. Set the 'Orphan Rows' to 5.
Harro de Jong
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I don't see how it's possible to develop a template that gives you a
flawless page. I find it's a judgment call to decide how many rows of a
particular table to keep on a page or to move to the next page.
Is it possible to tell FM that if there are 5 or less rows in a table,
move the whole
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Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
> Is it possible to tell FM that if there are 5 or less rows in a table,
> move the whole table to the next page?
Yes. Set the 'Orphan Rows' to 5.
Harro de Jong
I'm really bothered by the Top of Page as an override, because if we
add text to the front end, that override is going to force a Top of
Page we might not want.
Create a special paragraph format called PageBreak. Give it a large Space:
Below Pgf: value, say 600 pt. Then insert this paragraph
Hi all, good morning.
FM 8.0, XP.
This is really a best practices question.
A couple of weeks ago, there was a discussion about overrides, and how
they should be used rarely or not at all.
So I thought about that and started to watch our use of overrides.
We use overrides all the time. For
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To: Framer's List
Subject: question about overrides
Hi all, good morning.
FM 8.0, XP.
This is really a best practices question.
A couple of weeks
If you want a page layout that FrameMaker cannot deliver automatically,
then overriding the template for the printed output is your only option.
The alternatives are to devise a template that produces a flawless page,
or at least an acceptable one, every time; or to lower your standards
for
Fine-tuning the layout as the very final step before print is really the
only place where such overrides are acceptable. Then, when starting the
update for the next edition, import formats from the template (or
document itself) and remove overrides so you are back to only using the
defined
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Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Hi all, good morning.
>
> FM 8.0, XP.
>
> This is really a best practices question.
>
> A couple of weeks ago, there was a discussion about overrides, and how
> they should be used rarely or not at all.
>
> So I thought about that and started to watch our use of
> I'm really bothered by the Top of Page as an override, because if we
> add text to the front end, that override is going to force a Top of
> Page we might not want.
Create a special paragraph format called PageBreak. Give it a large "Space:
Below Pgf:" value, say 600 pt. Then insert this
Thanks all -- the concensus seems to be to create a special tag that I
can add to force the page break without creating an override.
Lester, to answer your question, there are times when we want the
whole paragraph to stay together. In Word, we highlight the paragraph
and choose Format >
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