Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread sef208
Have you tried the orwo? I prefer the orwo stocks. Also fuji neopan is an amazing stock and maybe now will start carrying it in the US. I agree that 7363 is a good stock but there are other options too. If anything we should start pressuring fuji reps in ny and la to carry neopan... On Sep 30, 2011

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread Steven Gladstone
It is so very sadly classic - Some guys from Kodak invented digital photography. http://pluggedin.kodak.com/pluggedin/post/?id=687843 The person who invented Xerox went to Kodak first, but Kodak wasn't interested (Kodak later brought out their version called Ektaprint.) Kodak really did control

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread 40 Frames
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 2:03 AM, sef208 wrote: > Have you tried the orwo? I prefer the orwo stocks. Also fuji neopan is an > amazing stock and maybe now will start carrying it in the US. I agree that > 7363 is a good stock but there are other options too. If anything we should > start pressuring f

[Frameworks] Program Details for Martha Colburn screening TONIGHT at Microscope in Brooklyn

2011-10-01 Thread LBurchill
We did post this to the This Week listing, but just now got the details about what Martha will be showing so thought I'd post it here.. It includes rare early and "unfinished" short works, including the 1st film she ever shot in Super 8, some 16mm films and some dvd transfers. SAT OCT 1, 7PM MARTH

[Frameworks] Community Dark Room Bay Area

2011-10-01 Thread eric stewart
Does anyone know of a community dark room in the bay area that is friendly towards folks processing cine-film? I have been processing at Rayco, but they have been charging me to use a private room and it is getting rather cost prohibitive. I am only processing black and white negative so my chemi

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 10/1/2011 9:58:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, i...@40frames.org writes: And Neopan is not currently available in the US Don't know why this has ever been a question for Fuji? Alain I've repeatedly asked the Fuji people in Hollywood about this, and they just g

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 10/1/2011 6:40:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, djte...@gmail.com writes: Kodak death humor: Gizmodo put the situation thusly. > Have you taken a look at Kodak's stock today? Get a good look while you can, because it's shitting the bed worse than a disemboweled E. coli p

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread sef208
I asked the fuji rep in new york and he said that it wouldn't be profitable enough in the US for fuji to bother... unless Kodak went under...The more pressure we put on them, the more demand they will perceive. There is still a pretty good demand for black and white film. Perhaps fuji will change i

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread Freya
re Fuji Neopan: I assume it would be way more expensive than Kodaks offering which is why they probably don't bother. I assume Fred is right and that Kodak will file for Chapter 11 protection assuming the patent sale doesn't go thru. To be honest it might be a good thing in a way, as selling t

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread 40 Frames
I don't know about the cost of Neopan motion picture stock elsewhere in the world... (Neopan still film is relatively cheap in the states, cheaper than Ilford by a lot and at the price point of films like Efke and Arista) but in the states ORWO is expensive by comparison. As it is today, 7363

[Frameworks] Part 2 of 2: This week [October 1 - 9, 2011] in avant garde cinema

2011-10-01 Thread Weekly Listing
Part 2 of 2: This week [October 1 - 9, 2011] in avant garde cinema - SATURDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2011 - 10/8 New York, New York: New York Film Festival http://www.filmlinc.com/nyff/nyff.htm 1:15pm, Walter Reade Theate VIEWS FROM THE AVANT GARDE: STUDIES

[Frameworks] Part 1 of 2: This week [October 1 - 9, 2011] in avant garde cinema

2011-10-01 Thread Weekly Listing
Part 1 of 2: This week [October 1 - 9, 2011] in avant garde cinema To subscribe/unsubscribe to the weekly listing, go to http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/mailto.pl?mailto=subscribe or send an email to weeklylist...@hi-beam.net. Enter your announcements (calls for entries, new work, screenings, job

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread sef208
I think circulating a letter to both Fuji and Orwo would be a good idea. After all, these are companies and we are consumers...they should be interested in what we have to say. The crucial part will be in getting institutions, i.e. schools, studios, production companies of various sizes, etc. to be

Re: [Frameworks] Community Dark Room Bay Area

2011-10-01 Thread k. a.r.
you know eric, if you can make a blackout thing for your bathroom window, you should do it yourself. People give away darkroom stuff for free all the time on Craigslist. Like really, really great stuff that when I was an undergrad in the 90's, we would have felt like it was winning the lottery

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 10/1/2011 8:38:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sef...@gmail.com writes: I asked the fuji rep in new york and he said that it wouldn't be profitable enough in the US for fuji to bother... unless Kodak went under...The more pressure we put on them, the more demand they wi

Re: [Frameworks] Community Dark Room Bay Area

2011-10-01 Thread Rick Prelinger
Is there darkroom space at the Harvey Milk Rec center in or near Duboce Park? Think so. Rick Prelinger foot...@panix.com Prelinger Library & Archives San Francisco On Oct 2, 2011, at 5:40, "k. a.r." wrote: > you know eric, if you can make a blackout thing for your bathroom window, you > shou

Re: [Frameworks] Anti-static film cleaner recs

2011-10-01 Thread Todd Eacrett
For a looper you need something fast drying. These days that means either an isopropanol or perchloroethylene base. I've used the Edwal version of the latter to clean footage on a looper and it worked well: you can see the cleaner evaporate before it winds into the take-up. Perch is dry-cle

Re: [Frameworks] Kodak filing for bankruptcy?

2011-10-01 Thread sef208
or maybe someone on frameworks lives in east asia and can buy some and ship it people in US for small fee? On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM, wrote: > ** > In a message dated 10/1/2011 8:38:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > sef...@gmail.com writes: > > I asked the fuji rep in new york and he said t