Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 17, Issue 14

2011-10-08 Thread Brian Frye
As Fred noted some time ago, bankruptcy can mean either reorganization or dissolution. Under the circumstances, the former seems more likely than the latter. In any case, so long as there is some demand for motion picture film, someone will produce it, whether it's Kodak or someone else. Hell, i

[Frameworks] Part 2 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema

2011-10-08 Thread Weekly Listing
Part 2 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema FRIDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2011 10/14 Boston, Massachusetts: ArtsEmerson http://ArtsEmerson.org 6p, Paramount Center: Bright Family Screening Room 559 Washington Street YANQUI WALKER A

[Frameworks] Part 1 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema

2011-10-08 Thread Weekly Listing
Part 1 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema To subscribe/unsubscribe to the weekly listing, go to http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/mailto.pl?mailto=subscribe or send an email to weeklylist...@hi-beam.net. Enter your announcements (calls for entries, new work, screenings, jo

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread Mark Longolucco
It doesn't matter if digital looks like film or not. I would beg to differ that it is kind of the point- not as to why artists choose to work in film, but for why film may not be a choice for an artist anymore. This issue with film's struggle to stay vibrant is that it is the entire pro

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread D Dawson
Okay, perhaps this might add a bit more perspective. I doesn't matter how many stops video or film may have. It doesn't matter how indistinguishable the two may "look" (I assume as a digital file on a computer, or monitor not projected on their intended format in a theatre). What we are looking

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread Pip Chodorov
Aaron, the starting point of your logic is all wrong. It doesn't matter if digital looks like film or not. It is NOT film. The debate is not about what digital looks like, or about what film looks like. It's about what they are. The nature of the material. Artists work with those qualities. Scul

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread Aaron F. Ross
Definitely good points. However, don't forget that any film stock can now be emulated, given good enough digital source material. As I said before, the moment that HDR sensors become affordable, then celluloid will be irrelevant. If you start with 20 stops of latitude in a 32-bit floating point

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread mike rice
Aaron- I know this is a few months late, my apologies on the tardiness, but I'd like to address what this thread was originally about... my problem with your original post is not that film will eventually stop being produced (this may or may not happen, and Forbes should certainly not be our proof

[Frameworks] Call for entries: San Francisco Bay Area films

2011-10-08 Thread Charles Chadwick
Hello everyone. I am currently a student at de anza college in Cupertino , ca. I've been inspired to do a screening of experimental work from local san francisco bay area film/video makers, which can include straight experimental work, exp narrative, and exp documentary. This screening would do

[Frameworks] hand processing problem - remjet?

2011-10-08 Thread John Woods
Hi, I hand processed an old roll of exposed B&W 16mm film this past week. It was probably 20+ years old, in one of the old silver 100ft cans and had no film label but was marked exposed and thought I'd give it a try to see if I could get some sort of fogged image out of it or at least get some b

Re: [Frameworks] screen Richard Myers films

2011-10-08 Thread Adam Hyman
Check with Richard, or with Mark Toscano, who was restoring some of the films. I can send you Richard¹s info off list. On 10/8/11 11:37 AM, "Melissa Parson" wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to rent /screen Richard Myers 16 mm > > "Allison." 1971, 7 mins., B and W, sound. > > "Confro

[Frameworks] screen Richard Myers films

2011-10-08 Thread Melissa Parson
Does anyone know if it's possible to rent /screen Richard Myers 16 mm "Allison." 1971, 7 mins., B and W, sound. "Confrontation at Kent State." 1970, 43 mins., B and W, sound. thanks melissa___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread Melissa Parson
hey sore eyes, insults and negative facts about his art have nothing to do with his arguments or assertions. try to argue the points and resist your urge to lash out. critical analysis of art is important but that's not what this thread was about... > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Meli

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-08 Thread Francisco Torres
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Melissa wrote: > The FU was pretty weak in my mind. What was worse was slamming someones > art work because you don't agree with their statements on technology changes > etc... How are we to create community where people feel safe to have heated > discussions if