Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

I just want to unsubscribe from you. Tim Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Cari Machet wrote: > > you cant unsubscribe this way and why do people do this kind of > 'pronouncement' - its like acting out? > > dont open the emails in a thread if its so horrific - what would you f

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

you cant unsubscribe this way and why do people do this kind of 'pronouncement' - its like acting out? dont open the emails in a thread if its so horrific - what would you fuckers do in a war zone for fuck sake? i dont care if you leave the list really if you are so whiny On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Please unsubscribe me from the list. I thank everyone for the knowledge and wisdom they have shared. The current tone is unfortunate. Perhaps people could email each other privately or meet for coffee to discuss their differences? I have very much appreciated all the knowledge that wisdom share

Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

one more reason to love standish lawder - thanks for that story <3 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Francisco Torres wrote: > "Wasn't that great, let's watch it again" > > Yes! That's the spirit! > > 2015-03-30 15:37 GMT-04:00 George, Sherman : > > Standish Lawder would show "Wavelength" to his

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

listen i am NOT a white person i dont react with a smile when i am faced with someone that doesnt even think about humility and self critique i would NEVER tell other people to 'calm down' it also lacks humility i went to art school where thankfully i was taught the art of critique and self criti

Re: [Frameworks] Charlotte Pryce

Got it thanks! On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Ekrem Serdar wrote: > Any of you folks have Charlotte Pryce' phone number (I have her email)? > Would appreciate it asap. > > -- > ekrem serdar > austin, tx > > -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWork

[Frameworks] RIP Robert Russett

Very very sorry to report that we lost the brilliant and incredible artist and scholar Robert Russett on March 26. For the past few years, I've been honored to work with him on restoring his remarkable 16mm films, something which is still ongoing. Bob was really thrilled that people had started t

[Frameworks] Charlotte Pryce

Any of you folks have Charlotte Pryce' phone number (I have her email)? Would appreciate it asap. -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

Hey Alex, I've been working in a multimedia performance project that is made with mobile technologies and it's dedicated to the sacred feminine universe. Here you have some of the links: http://carolinaberger.com.br/arquivo/performance/ http://carolinaberger.com.br/madame-cb/ all the best! M

Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

Probably should have been a comma. Heightened tensions on FW today. (joke for joke) On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:11 PM, wrote: > There are 413 miles between Edinburgh and London. They are even in > different countries, as recent events have highlighted! > > Nicky. > > > > -Original Message---

Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

There are 413 miles between Edinburgh and London. They are even in different countries, as recent events have highlighted! Nicky. -Original Message- From: herb shellenberger To: Experimental Film Discussion List Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:24 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Women work

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

I apologize, in general, for whatever. I don't want to add to polemics that disdain and dissuade an inclusive environment. Like Sasha, I barely contribute, to most listservs, for fear of attack and ridicule, and yet I did apparently myself, however, depending on your POV, regarding her remarks dir

Re: [Frameworks] Short films that focus on the post-industrial

Keiller's book too "The View from the Train" and Straub and Huillet's "Too Early, Too Late" On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:55 PM, wrote: > Anything by Patrick Keiller, some of Kevin Jerome Everson's work, though > don't know it all to make accurate suggestions, William Raban's recent work > over th

[Frameworks] room-mate / sublet situation with steenbeck coming up in brooklyn (may/june)

hey folksi'll be looking for a room-mate / subletter in may/june (& maybe longer tbc) big loft in dumbo with a working steenbeck, projectors &cprobably better for someone with a 9 to 5, there's a building site across the road that can get loudget in touch for details &/or pass it on! cheers moir

Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

Late pass but two not mentioned: Screen Bandita (whose members are now scattered in Edinburgh-London and Australia) http://www.screenbandita.org Rose Kallal (NYC) https://vimeo.com/user7961588 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Carl E Bogner wrote: > > > Kellie Bronikowski > Sandra Gibson > Zoe

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood-teaching Wavelength

On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Dave Tetzlaff mailto:djte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Chill out, people! Amen! Tell it like it is brother Tetzlaff! I didn’t participate because the initial question seemed very flawed for the reasons David has pointed out, and I was off at a conference (Society for

Re: [Frameworks] Short films that focus on the post-industrial

Anything by Patrick Keiller, some of Kevin Jerome Everson's work, though don't know it all to make accurate suggestions, William Raban's recent work over the last twenty years, Nicky. -Original Message- From: Margaret Rorison To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 31 Ma

Re: [Frameworks] 2. Re: What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

“Wasn’t that great, let’s watch it again” Yes! That's the spirit! 2015-03-30 15:37 GMT-04:00 George, Sherman : > Standish Lawder would show “Wavelength” to his “History of Cinema” class > and as the lights came up in the classroom he would go to the lectern and > announce “Wasn’t that great, le

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Saying that a film makes students want to commit suicide isn't a critique, its an offensive derogatory statement, which is directed not just towards the filmmaker, but towards her students especially. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 1:27 PM Dave Tetzlaff wrote: > Chill out, people! > > This is a Listserv.

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Chill out, people! This is a Listserv. People write short posts quickly, and hit 'Send'. "Rhetorical excess" comes with the territory as we dash off our thoughts w/o reflecting deeply about whether our wording will read to others with the meanings they had for us when they popped into our head

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Sasha, I appreciate your intelligent and helpful response bringing some radical women filmmakers into the original post. Sometimes many people in this space seem to get very stuck on notions of the canon which means that important work like that of Sadie Benning and Hito Steyerl gets swiped aside.

Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

It’s all here http://www.vasulka.org/index.html . Go to “Site Map,” then “Kitchen.” > On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Elizabeth McMahon wrote: > > I'd start with this. It is the definition of a tome. > http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Heads-Practice-Pioneers-1973

Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Response off list

Hi,  I'm only a quiet reader of this list. Sorry to interfere but how about everybody calming down a little bit, as Tim Halloran suggested? I'm sure you would get along if we were all in the same room. Words interpreted out of wack. Your points are understood, but it's becoming less and less c

[Frameworks] Fwd: Response off list

Why does this woman insist on making things she made bad, worse? She is being a human malaprop, and just does not get how tone deaf she is. Gene, she's meshugganah, no one it seems clear is taking this seriously, but still, you'd think she'd be humbled and learn a lesson, and this whole "I'm a youn

[Frameworks] Vasulkas research

Hi all, I am conducting a research paper on the history of The Kitchen, the role of the Vasulkas and their contributions to experimental media. Does anyone have any readings on these subjects that they can link me to? Thanks, Mathew Galindo ___ Frame

Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

I'd start with this. It is the definition of a tome. http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Heads-Practice-Pioneers-1973--1990/dp/0262720507/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427818203&sr=8-1&keywords=buffalo+media+vasulka Elizabeth McMahon On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Maat Galindo wrote: > Hi all, > > I am

Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

A good place to start would probably be their website: http://vasulka.org/ Best of luck! Mia Ferm -- Cinema Project www.cinemaproject.org 971-266-0085 PO Box 5991 Portland, OR 97228 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Maat Galindo wrote: > Hi all, > > I am conducting a research paper on the his

Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

A good place to start would probably be their website: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Maat Galindo wrote: > Hi all, > > I am conducting a research paper on the history of The Kitchen, the role > of the Vasulkas and their contributions to experimental media. > > Does anyone have any readings

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

?This is the kind of vitriol that once made me leave Frameworks. I came back because I missed the otherwise healthy exchanges, the generosity, the sense of community and shared interest. It's disheartening to see it once again descend into hostility and name-calling. People have different opinio

Re: [Frameworks] 3 sound works

I really like Yasuano Tone, I listen to his albums a lot, and I’ve seen him live a couple of times, so that’s not much of a dare :) Best, Blanca (Ø) _ _blank www.null66913.net www.mediateletipos.net > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Bernard Roddy mailto:rodd.

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

gene owes no fucking apology in any way you on the other hand need to do some hefty work on yourself - obliviousness to self critique is a frightening place to even witness a hearty fuck off to you sasha On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 4:08 PM, chris bravo wrote: > "Clearly my rhetorical excesses

Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

Helen Hill - Madame Winger Makes a Film On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Elizabeth McMahon wrote: > Dear Cindy, > > Your distinction is well taken. However, I see "Spook Sport" so infused > with the witticism and singularity of each of them! I think it is > rightfully recognized as a brilliant t

[Frameworks] Short films that focus on the post-industrial

Dear Friends, I am looking to find short films that visually capture the post-industrial landscape as well as the broad range of feelings and experiences that may surround these landscapes. thanks so much, Meg Rorison -- http://margaretrorison.com/ http://sightunseenbaltimore.com/ (443) 69

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

"Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to "Wavelength"" your rhetoric wasn't "excessive" it was offensive. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Sasha Waters Freyer wrote: > > Mr. Youngblood, > > Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to "Wavelength" offended you. > However, turning a

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Gene owes no apology. Presuming the need for one is what is rude, as is your inability to edit your comment so it is just his and your remarks. I could care less to seen the history of your digest that you've carelessly (thoughtlessly?) allowed attached. Elizabeth On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:22 AM,

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

Mr. Youngblood, Clearly my rhetorical excesses with regards to "Wavelength" offended you. However, turning a critical disagreement over a 48-year-old film is no excuse to attack my ability as a teacher or to dictate my "responsibility" to my students. I will chalk this exchange up to your passion