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All documentaries are constructed in some way to force a narrative. And they are certainly told from the pov which makes for entertainment. I'm not a fan of filmmakers getting their subject to meet their long lost parent just for the purpose of narrative. Those are stories forced by the filmmakers and not the subject.

Even the Up series had subjects dropping out because they felt the way they were portraid was not their true selves.

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I recommend a double feature of Kiarostami’s “Close Up” followed by the feature length Nathan For You episode “Finding Frances”. 

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Am 07.06.2019 um 08:02 schrieb Tim Halloran <televisual@hotmail.com>:

...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.

Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all.

I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.

So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.

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There are a plethora of doc films that engage strategies that do this, but the writings of Bill Nichols and Stella Bruzzi on performative doc are really important for this discussion.

Check out New Documentary (latest edition) by Stella Bruzzi.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:13 PM Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.

I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.

So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.

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and it's been ages since I saw it, but I recall Michelle Citron's Daughter Rite as fitting with what you're looking at

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Hello all.

I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.

So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.

M
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Check out the book F Is for Phony: Fake Documentary and Truth’s Undoing, ed. By Alex Juhasz and Jesse Lerner
And then all the films discussed in there…
We did a screening once in conjunction with it that included No Lies, Land Without Bread, and Marlon Fuentes’ Bontoc Eulogy (1995).

Best regards,

Adam Hyman
Los Angeles Filmforum


On 6/6/19, 11:02 PM, "FrameWorks on behalf of Tim Halloran" <frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of televisual@hotmail.com> wrote:

...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.

Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.
I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.
So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.
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On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Adam Hyman <adam@lafilmforum.org> wrote:

Check out the book F Is for Phony: Fake Documentary and Truth’s Undoing, ed. By Alex Juhasz and Jesse Lerner
And then all the films discussed in there…
We did a screening once in conjunction with it that included No Lies, Land Without Bread, and Marlon Fuentes’ Bontoc Eulogy (1995).

Best regards,

Adam Hyman
Los Angeles Filmforum


On 6/6/19, 11:02 PM, "FrameWorks on behalf of Tim Halloran" <frameworks-bounces@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of televisual@hotmail.com> wrote:

...No Lies, (1973); Mitchell Block.

Most documentaries “play with truth,” in some manner.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.
I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)
I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.
So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.
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On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all.

I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

I remember considering Nichols' introduction to documentary and getting only as far as the way he conceived the material. I think he draws attention to the word "representation."

Once you have framed everything under an analysis of that term, I think it's going to be hard to drop the camera or leave the cinema. And truth? Shall we conceive of it as an accurate representation to begin with?

Bernie 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Samirah Alkassim <deristea@gmail.com> wrote:
There are a plethora of doc films that engage strategies that do this, but the writings of Bill Nichols and Stella Bruzzi on performative doc are really important for this discussion.

Check out New Documentary (latest edition) by Stella Bruzzi.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:13 PM Morgan Hoyle-Combs <mhoylecombs@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.

I've asked this quite a few times already, but I'm still on the lookout for films that question the concept of truth in documentaries or cinema. So far, I've been able to favor "Megacities" by Michael Glawogger, "David Hotlzman's Diary" by Jim McBride and "The stories we tell" by Sarah Polley. And yes, I've watched F for Fake more than enough ;)

I've also been getting into dissecting film and theater down to, for lack of better terms, compound elements. I've been looking into the works of Bazin, Kracauer and Metz and how they have explored the concept of spectatorship and illusion within the realm of photography, film and sometimes theater.

So anything that would focus on deconstructing truth or incorperate cinema theory. In addition to diaries and essays, I'd also be open to film/video installations/performances that share the same focus.

M
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