Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-26 Thread Steve Polta
I was actually thinking of Christopher Maclaine's films in the context of this discussion, particularly *The End*, which has many sort of transitory shots that don't seem to participate directly in the film and seem sort of marginal but then later stand out (to me at least) as the most memorable an

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-26 Thread Francisco Torres
The films of Raul Ruiz are full of weird "'out of the blue"' events that are never explained. He talks about them in his Poetic of Cinema books. Ruiz favored the unexpected *"'For years I watched so-called Greco-Latin films (toga flicks, with early Christians devoured by lions, emperors in love an

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-26 Thread Fred Camper
Quoting Andy Ditzler : > Hello, > > Consider the brief close-up appearance of the cockatoo around the last > third of Citizen Kane. Cut to bird, loud bird shriek on soundtrack, then > back to the story. Welles' purpose in this odd cutaway was to wake up the > audience, exactly as Tom Whiteside des

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-25 Thread Ittai Rosenbaum
Andy, I will look for that scene. If indeed "It has a sort of purpose, but no meaning" then it is exactly what I'm searching for. Many thanks Ittai On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Andy Ditzler wrote: > Hello, > > Consider the brief close-up appearance of the cockatoo around the last > third

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-25 Thread Andy Ditzler
Hello, Consider the brief close-up appearance of the cockatoo around the last third of Citizen Kane. Cut to bird, loud bird shriek on soundtrack, then back to the story. Welles' purpose in this odd cutaway was to wake up the audience, exactly as Tom Whiteside describes with his experience. ("It ha

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-25 Thread Ittai Rosenbaum
down…. and he falls asleep. On >> camera, the narration just goes to sleep. I only saw that film once and am >> probably not remembering this correctly, but I do remember the singularity >> of my experience sitting there, listening to this guy, trying to make sense >> of it, getting a bit bored

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-24 Thread Carl Lee
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Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-23 Thread Ittai Rosenbaum
rameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com [mailto: > frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *Ittai Rosenbaum > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:37 AM > *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > *Subject:* [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence > ** ** > > Hi

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-23 Thread Beebe, Roger
frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> Subject: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence Hi My name is Ittai Rosenbaum, I am a doctoral student at the music composition department at UCSC and in the process of defining my Qualification Exams topics. I wondered if anyone could perhaps have

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-23 Thread Bryan McManus
Hi Ittai, Yours is an interesting pursuit! Much luck to you in your study. Your thoughts reminded me of an interview I heard with David Lynch (forgive me, I cannot remember where) where he spoke about the "eye of the duck" as being an element of his films. Interestingly, I think he was referrin

Re: [Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-23 Thread Tom Whiteside
ing to make sense of it, getting a bit bored, then watching him nod off. That woke me up! TomDurham Cinematheque From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Ittai Rosenbaum Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:37 AM To: frameworks@j

[Frameworks] Singularity and intentional incoherence

2013-01-22 Thread Ittai Rosenbaum
Hi My name is Ittai Rosenbaum, I am a doctoral student at the music composition department at UCSC and in the process of defining my Qualification Exams topics. I wondered if anyone could perhaps have interesting knowledge or insights about a subject in film theory that might parallel one of my to