Re: [Frameworks] drugged

2013-02-12 Thread matt's frameworks address
While not directly druggie, early German Expressionistic films, particularily Metropolis, have some of the earliest subjective portrayals of mind-altered states using flashy over-the-top visual signifiers. Oliver Stone's The Doors has some interesting transitions that sequence to/from

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2013-02-11 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] drugged Hi Eric,  Try: John Hawkins, LSD Wall (1965) clay animation of a trip (with a dedication to his dealer!) Storm De Hirsch, Peyote Queen (1965) Eric Emerson's monologue sequence in reel 9

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2013-02-11 Thread Jim Flannery
Jan Kounen's _Renegade_ (based on Moebius' Blueberry comics) has the most effective coming on moment I've seen anywhere. -- Jim Flannery mailto:j...@newgrangemedia.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com

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2013-02-10 Thread Francisco Torres
Back in the late 60s/ early 70s most TV cop shows included a trip sequence. The trend culminated with The French Connection 2 infamous heroin room. Most of those trips were more funny than scary Some TV series were a trip like Land of the Giants and Puff N Stuff (Which we 5th graders used to

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2013-02-10 Thread Watter, Seth
Ken Russell's Altered States: William Hurt tripping in the desert with natives. Seth On Sunday, February 10, 2013, Francisco Torres wrote: Back in the late 60s/ early 70s most TV cop shows included a trip sequence. The trend culminated with The French Connection 2 infamous heroin room.

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2013-02-10 Thread Julianna Schley
Check out Ben Russell's series Trypps. On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying the tropes of the trip, that is to say, the way hallucinatory and other drug experiences have been portrayed

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2013-02-10 Thread J Vent
Certainly there are the bits with the high on speed/acid/booze Hells Angels and others (hanging about on stage, before the murder,) from the Maysles film Gimme Shelter and though not a psychedelic drug film, there are few films that are druggier than Requiem for a Dream and I guess Drugstore

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2013-02-10 Thread J Vent
Don't forget to look at things like Cheech and Chong flicks, and other comedies in this vein, Dazed and Confused, (loosely) Donny Darko, etc. ok I'm done. JV On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM, J Vent jvent.subscripti...@gmail.comwrote: Certainly there are the bits with the high on

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2013-02-10 Thread Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
I think there is an important distinction between trippy and drugged. Drugstore Cowboy and Sid and Nancy I'd call drugged but not trippy. At 12:40 PM -0800 2/10/13, J Vent wrote: Don't forget to look at things like Cheech and Chong flicks, and other comedies in this vein, Dazed and Confused,

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2013-02-10 Thread Andy Ditzler
Hi Eric, Try: John Hawkins, LSD Wall (1965) clay animation of a trip (with a dedication to his dealer!) Storm De Hirsch, Peyote Queen (1965) Eric Emerson's monologue sequence in reel 9 of Warhol's The Chelsea Girls is a tour de force, and reportedly was performed under the influence of LSD

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2013-02-10 Thread C Keefer
: [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying the tropes of the trip, that is to say, the way hallucinatory and other drug experiences have been portrayed on-screen. Flashy, over-the-top visual signifiers are what I seek, but Frameworks excels at identifying

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2013-02-09 Thread Matt Helme
We can't go back Home Again by Nick Ray. Matt http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007 From: Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [Frameworks

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2013-02-09 Thread Royce Marcus (Film)
://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007 *From:* Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM *Subject:* [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying

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2013-02-09 Thread Dennis Doros
Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM *Subject:* [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying the tropes of the trip, that is to say, the way hallucinatory and other drug experiences have been portrayed

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2013-02-09 Thread Scott Dorsey
In high school health class we were shown a film called The Weird World Of LSD which seemed kind of incoherent to me at the time. Among other things, I think it explains how LSD can turn you into a chicken. As I recall the general response of the audience is that everybody wanted to know where

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2013-02-09 Thread Tom Whiteside
Check with Skip Elsheimer of AV Geeks. - Tom -Original Message- From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Eric Theise Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:41 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] drugged Hello

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2013-02-09 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
tom.whites...@duke.edu To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] drugged Check with Skip Elsheimer of AV Geeks.     - Tom -Original Message- From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun

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2013-02-09 Thread Beebe, Roger
LSD: Insight or Insanity has some great stuff when it's not a parade of guys in white coats telling you about the latest (60s) research. On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: In high school health class we were shown a film called The Weird World Of LSD which seemed kind of

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2013-02-09 Thread Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
Zabriskie Point I'm sure Antonioni was partaking at the time. The Red Shoes is from the 40's and has no overtly drug related content, but it is one of the most psychedelic films I've ever seen. At 11:40 AM -0800 2/9/13, Eric Theise wrote: Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions

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2013-02-09 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) em...@foryourhead.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] drugged Zabriskie Point  I'm sure Antonioni was partaking at the time. The Red Shoes

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2013-02-09 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
Easy Rider, the New Orleans cemetery sequence any number of late 60s-early 70s grindhouse films with drug taking followed by subjective camera sequences More (1969, d. Barbet Schroeder) Any number of 60s-70s rock concert films with sequences of highly subjective camera to capture the moment

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2013-02-09 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] drugged Well, if you're going to reference Red Shoes you have to proffer the requisite Fantasia. Ultimate druggie film. But Tom wants industrials. But this is fun anyways. I'd love to see

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2013-02-09 Thread Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
excellent suggestion. Elizabeth From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) em...@foryourhead.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] drugged Zabriskie Point I'm sure Antonioni was partaking at the time

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2013-02-09 Thread Lawrence Brose
...@gmail.comericthe...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.comframeworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying the tropes

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2013-02-09 Thread Ross Nugent
ericthe...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.comframeworks@jonasmekasfilms.com frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions

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2013-02-09 Thread David Baker
Thinking about the trope of the trip in the manner lets say Amos Vogel's Cinema 16 might hypothetically have considered this theme: I would suggest Tex Avery's King Size Canary (1947) in which an elixir called Jumbo-Gro allows for a mouse, a cat and a canary to move past each other in