Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> - Then came the Unix wars, where AT&T sued BSDI (a commercial variant > that no longer exists) over perceived copyright infringement. The > free BSDs weren't really directly involved, but the suit would have > been just as relevant, and people were worried. > > This was the time that Li

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Martin
The reason was actually intellectual property based between AT&T and the proprietary BSD/386 if your talking BSD4.4. That was the core reason for why FreeBSD and NetBSD started. So really it isn't that crazy, more highly unlikely that your going to get the core developers of each project to abandon

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Johan Beisser
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > - Then DragonflyBSD split from FreeBSD. Mainly personality driven > AFAICT. Again, this doesn't imply any criticism of the founder of > the new project. There were some very valid technical reasons at the time as well, IMHO. ___

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 12 November 2012 at 21:37:41 +0100, Robin Björklin wrote: > First and foremost I'd like to present myself, I'm a young and naive > junior sys admin that think people should be able to compromise and > see the bigger picture and the good of the cause. It shows :-) > As all of you prob

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Brett Glass
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that the Linux world is unified. It isn't. The big difference between Linux and the BSDs is that it alienates itself from the BSDs and many other projects by using a viral, business-hostile license. The BSDs can draw on one another's work beca

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Eric Furman
This is the funniest thing I've seen all day. :) On Mon, Nov 12, 2012, at 03:37 PM, Robin Björklin wrote: > Hi! > > First and foremost I'd like to present myself, I'm a young and naive > junior > sys admin that think people should be able to compromise and see the > bigger > picture and the good

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Anders N.
If there's to be any hope of a rational discussion, we need to remember to CC each list as the OP did. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012, Tony wrote: >Ain't that what OpenBSD is though - the best from all worlds? Especially with comments like these.. ___ freebsd-c

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread pete wright
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Robin Björklin wrote: > > > Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest > BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and > create a Unified BSD? > you are not crazy for thinking this, and fortunately there

Re: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Ville Valkonen
On 12 November 2012 22:37, Robin Björklin wrote: > As all of you probably know there's a lot of buzz around Gnu/Linux these > days and I'm pretty sure you couldn't care less. What I'm wondering is why > the BSD community which from what I can gather isn't as big as the Linux > community have deci

RE: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Jakub Lach
+1 Also, all projects being _open_ it's not like there isn't any useful cross-talk in sources, there is. And all projects can focus on their precise goals. Win-win. Of course, if some sub-goals are common, collaboration is encouraged (e.g. editor suite, chromium, I believe some wifi drivers

RE: Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Justin Mayes
Yes, your bat crap crazy :-) All of these variants inherit from the same unified BSD 4.4 base code as far as I know. So years ago there were reasons that groups wanted to spilt off and focus on specific goals. Some of these goals are mutually exclusive. These BSD variants are not really competing

Unified BSD?

2012-11-12 Thread Robin Björklin
Hi! First and foremost I'd like to present myself, I'm a young and naive junior sys admin that think people should be able to compromise and see the bigger picture and the good of the cause. Now over to the reason for my post. As all of you probably know there's a lot of buzz around Gnu/Linux th