Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-07-04 Thread Genghis Khan
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:26:22 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: > Tick, tock. > ___ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Opt o

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-29 Thread dt71
Tick, tock. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-06 Thread Genghis Khan
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:18:15 -0400 Joe Altman wrote: > And FWIW, it's not the community that, AFAICT, arguing against GA. > It's a few people in that community who, apparently, don't wish to > use any sort of localhost mechanism to adress the issue. Again, FWIW: > I would prefer the FBSD project d

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread Brett Glass
At 06:18 PM 6/5/2013, Joe Altman wrote: Weblog analysis is hard. Google, with its analytics, does it well. The project needs that analysis. For what? To market its expensive product? The fact is that the project does NOT need this analysis, especially at the cost of visitors' privacy. It set

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread dt71
On 06/06/2013 02:18, Joe Altman wrote: you are what you claim others are. Which is? And FWIW, it's not the community that, AFAICT, arguing against GA. It's a few people in that community who, apparently, don't wish to use any sort of localhost mechanism to adress the issue. Again, FWIW: I wou

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread Joe Altman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 08:07:46PM +0200, d...@gmx.com wrote: > > 1. I was unable to find any traces of such a discussion. Then you did not look. > Apparently, if there was a discussion, it was held between a small, > closed group. Small, yes. Closed, not so much. > People only annoy me when t

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread dt71
On 06/05/2013 16:34, John Baldwin wrote: There was quite a lively discussion of this before it was enabled and a summary of the reasons for using it was posted to announce@ quite a while ago: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2012-December/001441.html 1. I was unable to find

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:24:04 am d...@gmx.com wrote: > I am yet to receive a answer from the web master. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2013-May/006883.html Your opinion has been noted. There was quite a lively discussion of this before it was enabled and a summary of

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-06-05 Thread dt71
I am yet to receive a answer from the web master. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2013-May/006883.html ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "fre

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-29 Thread Genghis Khan
Google and the NSA Connection (short article + 04:38 minutes video) http://www.blacklistednews.com/Google_and_the_NSA_Connection/26300/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://www.batr.org/negotium/052913.html (source) Document of NSA was changed on 2013-05-08 at 15:43 (40336257 bytes) http://www.nsa.gov/public_i

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-27 Thread Genghis Khan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:03:05 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: > On 05/24/2013 01:04, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > If you don't want to participate in GA, you can block the related > > javascript quite easily. > > Irrelevant. Most users have no idea how to practically avoid GA, or > even worse: they do not

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-27 Thread dt71
OpenBSD is an operating system that focuses on security, and the non-use of GA on the openbsd.org website reflects this. It has been always thought that security is also a key point of FreeBSD. For example, the FreeBSD developers also believe in full disclosures, a (package set) usage reporter

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-27 Thread dt71
On 05/24/2013 01:04, Darren Pilgrim wrote: If you don't want to participate in GA, you can block the related javascript quite easily. Irrelevant. Most users have no idea how to practically avoid GA, or even worse: they do not understand the dangers in enriching a terrorist company with lots

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread Genghis Khan
On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:15:32 +0930 Mike Trewartha wrote: > This has already been discussed: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html I firmly agree with Brett Glass. Alternatives http://piwik.org/ http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/369515-we

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread pete wright
On May 23, 2013 6:04 PM, "Brett Glass" wrote: > > At 02:55 AM 5/23/2013, Jayton Garnett wrote: > >> Does it really matter? > > > Yes. A lot. FreeBSD should not facilitate violations of privacy or similar security risks. > So I assume you are working on and/or sponsoring code and infrastructure th

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread Brett Glass
At 02:55 AM 5/23/2013, Jayton Garnett wrote: Does it really matter? Yes. A lot. FreeBSD should not facilitate violations of privacy or similar security risks. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailma

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread dt71
On 05/23/2013 22:45, Mike Trewartha wrote: This has already been discussed: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html Do you read? On 05/23/2013 10:51, d...@gmx.com wrote: Several months ago, the FreeBSD web master decided [...], without giving any response o

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Trewartha
This has already been discussed: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html On 24/05/2013, at 2:15 AM, d...@gmx.com wrote: > On 05/23/2013 10:55, Jayton Garnett wrote: >> Does it really matter? > > Yes, but you knew that. >

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread dt71
On 05/23/2013 10:55, Jayton Garnett wrote: Does it really matter? Yes, but you knew that. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freeb

Re: "injunction" on the use of GA

2013-05-23 Thread Jayton Garnett
Does it really matter? On 23 May 2013 09:51, wrote: > Several months ago, the FreeBSD web master decided to cover the main > FreeBSD web site with Google Analytics, without giving any response or > respect to critics and concerns raised by the user community, such as > questioned benefits, public