Re: ld.so and 4.0-CURRENT

1999-02-07 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Try again with {3,4}.0-19990208 > > I installed 4.0-19990207-SNAP. > It seems ld.so is missing and it's not possible to run dynamicaly > linked aout executables. > > Val > _ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your

make world dies on todayes cvsup...............

1999-02-07 Thread William Woods
On todays cvsup of -current, I get the following -- /usr/local/src/sys/modules/ibcs2/../../i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ipc.c:201: dereferencing pointer to incompl ete type /usr/local/src/sys/modules/ibcs2/../../i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_ipc.c:202: dereferencing pointer to incompl

Re: thread-package strategy

1999-02-07 Thread Russell L. Carter
%> %> You've probably already seen this: %> %> "Scheduler Activations: Effective Kernel Support for the User-Level %> Management of Parallelism." %> http://www.acm.org/pubs/citations/proceedings/ops/121132/p95-anderson/> %> %And here is the abstract: % % %http://www.acm.org/pubs/toc/Abstracts/07

ld.so and 4.0-CURRENT

1999-02-07 Thread Valentin Shopov
I installed 4.0-19990207-SNAP. It seems ld.so is missing and it's not possible to run dynamicaly linked aout executables. Val _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to m

Re: Silo overflow messages with 3.0 Release

1999-02-07 Thread John Saunders
Try the following patch. Look for a line in /sys/i386/isa/sio.c that looks like: com->fifo_image = t->c_ospeed <= 4800 ? FIFO_ENABLE : FIFO_ENABLE | FIFO_RX_HIGH; Replace FIFO_RX_HIGH with FIFO_RX_MEDH, and if that doesn't work try FIFO_RX_MEDL inst

Re: KLD confusion..

1999-02-07 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mike Smith writes: > > This may be oversimplifying, but why wouldn't this work: just do > > everything at the module level: > > > > - All dependencies are inter-*module* dependencies. > > - Only one *module* with the same name can be loaded at one time. > > - KLD files (eg, foo.ko) are simply c

medium sized VM commits

1999-02-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
I've made a number of medium-sized VM commits today, just FYI: * The PQ_ZERO page queue has been ripped out and its functionality merged into PQ_FREE. The code is functionally the same ( or close to it ), but the kernel is a couple of kilobytes smaller. * MAP_ENTRY_IS_A_M

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Parag Patel
> Because rc.conf contains configuration variables, whereas rc contains > commands to execute at boot time. Then I would suggest renaming rc.conf to be rc.vars or rc.config-vars or something more appropriate than rc.conf, which like all the other *.conf files is intended for local editing and m

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[moved to -hackers] Peter Jeremy writes: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Tcpdump does not work on PLIP links, > Check out http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=7241 > This includes fixes for PLIP in lpt.c, but the code in ppbus/if_plip.c > looks virtually the same. Note that lpt.c with Bi

Regarding tcpdump and plip

1999-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[moving over to -hackers...] As I mentioned in earlier correspondance on -current, tcpdump is broken wrt plip connections. The reason for this is that, as I read the code in src/contrib/libpcap/gencode.c, libpcap expect DLT_NULL- type interfaces to produce a four-byte header with the link type in

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> Then why bother having rc.conf in the first place? Just wire in all > the defaults straight into /etc/rc and leave rc.conf strictly for > overriding the defaults only, and eliminate rc.conf.* entirely. Because rc.conf contains configuration variables, whereas rc contains commands to execute

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread John Fieber
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Andreas Klemm wrote: > What do you think ? Or what are your experiences ? It has caused a lot of grief with my recent install of 3.0-19990205, but I gather I'm supposed to install something later before complaining. The main annoyance has been that running /stand/sysinstall a

Re: KLD confusion..

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> Mike Smith writes: > > > Take the following scenario: > > > > > > compiled in: module A > > > > > > kldstat -v shows module 'A' > > > > > > kldload A > > > damned thing succeeds. > > > > That's correct. There's a fundamental problem here in that there's a > > confusion between file names a

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > Bill Paul writes: > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling > > Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > > > Yes to most of the above. Tcpdump does not wo

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Tcpdump does not work on PLIP links, Check out http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=7241 This includes fixes for PLIP in lpt.c, but the code in ppbus/if_plip.c looks virtually the same. Note that lpt.c with Bill Fenner's patch did not compile and needed the fol

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Parag Patel
> My opinion is that since we have /etc/rc and /etc/rc.local, we might > as well use /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local the same way -- that > is, just as /etc/rc should not be touched by anyone, neither should > /etc/rc.conf be touched by anyone. >

Re: Floppy Tape Driver.....

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Holling
> Hmm.. I don't believe this can be true however. I do not program but > I do run current on my workstation, it's just plain interesting thing > to do. Just my opinion. If you're running -current, you should at least be able to apply kernel patches... - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majo

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> :> > :> What do you think ? Or what are your experiences ? > : > :I hate it unreservedly. If we need a source of seeded default values, > :we should have rc.conf.default, uncommented, read-only. rc.conf is > :where people expect to make their changes, and it is immensely bogus to > :have sy

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > My opinion is that since we have /etc/rc and /etc/rc.local, we might > as well use /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local the same way -- that > is, just as /etc/rc should not be touched by anyone, neither should > /etc/rc.conf be touched by

Re: low level format--how??

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > The correct answer to "how do you low-level format a SCSI disk under > > FreeBSD" is "if you have to ask, you SHOULD NOT be doing it". It is > > almost never the right thing to do. > > In his case, I think it was. The "medium format corrupted" error message > can generally be fixed by low-

Re: thread-package strategy

1999-02-07 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > You've probably already seen this: > > "Scheduler Activations: Effective Kernel Support for the User-Level > Management of Parallelism." > http://www.acm.org/pubs/citations/proceedings/ops/121132/p95-anderson/> > And here is the abstract: http://www.acm.org/pubs/toc/Abstracts/0734-2071/146

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> :> What do you think ? Or what are your experiences ? : :I hate it unreservedly. If we need a source of seeded default values, :we should have rc.conf.default, uncommented, read-only. rc.conf is :where people expect to make their changes, and it is immensely bogus to :have sysinstall creat

Re: Floppy Tape Driver.....

1999-02-07 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 12:36:18AM -0500, John Robert LoVerso wrote: > > Well, I need to learn a little about programming first, so where do you > > reccomend I begin learning? > > If you don't know about programming, then you just shouldn't be running > -current. Step back to 2.2.8R and enjoy

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 12:41:17PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, John Robert LoVerso wrote: > > Or type "vi /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.site" and then hit ":N" to split > > the screen into two sessions, one in /etc/rc.conf and one in > > /etc/rc.conf.site. > > Use ^W to toggle betw

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 09:13:27AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Hmmm, I think your answer is a bit political, or am I really the > > only person, who hacks rc.conf.site with vi and has to browse through > > both files at the same time and is a bit annoyed by having to compare > > every singl

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> > What do you think ? Or what are your experiences ? I hate it unreservedly. If we need a source of seeded default values, we should have rc.conf.default, uncommented, read-only. rc.conf is where people expect to make their changes, and it is immensely bogus to have sysinstall creating rc.

Re: [Call for Review] new ioctl for src/sys/pccard/*

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --6331448DC47966073EBB6A88 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I'm planning to commit these changes into src/sys/pccard/. This adds > > two features. These featu

thread-package strategy

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Dobloug
You've probably already seen this: "Scheduler Activations: Effective Kernel Support for the User-Level Management of Parallelism." http://www.acm.org/pubs/citations/proceedings/ops/121132/p95-anderson/> -- Andreas Dobloug : email: andre...@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@free

Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Christopher Masto
I haven't used it yet, but I definately think the idea is an improvement. I hate trying to update /etc after an upgrade.. if it's been a while, or it's between major versions, it can take a very significant amount of time. Anything that moves local changes to a seperate file is a blessing. Also,

problems getting USB support working

1999-02-07 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
I've been trying to play with the USB support lately, and haven't got much success. I'm running a 4.0-current freshly CVSUPed, and less than 24 hours old. In summary, here's excepts from what I'm seeing when doing a verbose boot that appear to be relevent. During a boot, there is a few second p

Re: low level format--how??

1999-02-07 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
Mike Smith wrote... > > Thanks..I ended up just pulling my old Atari out of the closet and doing > > the format on it...that seemed to work and I am now up and running. I > > would still like to know how to do it under FreeBSD. > > If the disk wasn't being probed, then you can't format it, period.

was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Thomas Dean
This looks like a good addition to rc.conf(5). A description of what the inventor(s) intended when adding rc.conf.site and rc.conf.local to the system. > Typically I use 'sysinstall' exactly once in one machine's lifetime. > My old method of dealing with 'rc.conf' and 'rc.conf.local' was: > =

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Braukmann
Hi, On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 06:05:15PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > Sorry to say this, but you really don't understand it. :) sorry Andreas, ... I have to second this ;) > > > When we had one central rc.conf file it was fun to browse through > > > it and having all supported knobs visible at a

Re: low level format--how??

1999-02-07 Thread Mike Smith
> Thanks..I ended up just pulling my old Atari out of the closet and doing > the format on it...that seemed to work and I am now up and running. I > would still like to know how to do it under FreeBSD. If the disk wasn't being probed, then you can't format it, period. It sounds to me like you man

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bill Paul writes: > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling > Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > > Yes to most of the above. Tcpdump does not work on PLIP links, and I > > do not use IP aliases at all. > Explain to me how you concluded that tcpdump doesn't work

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, John Robert LoVerso wrote: > > No I have to use two vi sessions (or one ,more' and one ,vi' session) > > in two different (!) windows (especially after a new installation, > > Or type "vi /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.site" and then hit ":N" to split > the screen into two sessions

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > Bill Paul writes: > > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling > > Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > > > Luna, however, seems absolutely allergic to N

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bill Paul writes: > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling > Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > > Luna, however, seems absolutely allergic to NIS. Everything is > > configured correctly as far as I can see > [chop] > > Sure, that's what they all say. The N in

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread John Robert LoVerso
> No I have to use two vi sessions (or one ,more' and one ,vi' session) > in two different (!) windows (especially after a new installation, Or type "vi /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.site" and then hit ":N" to split the screen into two sessions, one in /etc/rc.conf and one in /etc/rc.conf.site. Use ^W

Re: NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dag-Erling Smorgrav had to walk into mine and say: > I have a very simple NIS configuration at home: niobe is the server > and luna, my scratch box, is the client. Niobe runs 4.0-CURRENT, and > luna runs 3.0-RELEASE until 'make world' finis

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Hmmm, I think your answer is a bit political, or am I really the > only person, who hacks rc.conf.site with vi and has to browse through > both files at the same time and is a bit annoyed by having to compare > every single line and then to add the knob in rc.conf.site ?! I still cannot see any

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 08:29:57AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Sorry to say this, but after having to use rc.conf.site as it is now > > I really kind of 'hate' it. > > Sorry to say this, but you really don't understand it. :) What ? ;-) Don't tell me that ;-) > > When we had one cent

NIS woes

1999-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
I have a very simple NIS configuration at home: niobe is the server and luna, my scratch box, is the client. Niobe runs 4.0-CURRENT, and luna runs 3.0-RELEASE until 'make world' finishes on niobe so I can make installworld over NFS. In addition to being the NIS and NFS server, niobe is also its own

You bring the hacker, I'll send the hardware (was Re: Floppy Tape Driver)

1999-02-07 Thread Drew Derbyshire
I have both a an Eagle TR-3 and an old Mountain QIC80 drive which I could donate to someone stupid^h^h^h^h^hbrave enough to revive the FT driver. I can even send along a few tapes for each. I personally gave up and went Exabyte SCSI. Christopher Masto wrote: > I have an Exabyte Eagle TR-3 driv

Re: [Call for Review] new ioctl for src/sys/pccard/*

1999-02-07 Thread Nate Williams
> I'm planning to commit these changes into src/sys/pccard/. This adds > two features. These features are obtained from PAO. > > o PIOCSVIR ... > o PIOCSBEEP ... The patch implementing these changes are adequate in the kernel, but are incomplete. What about the changes to usr.sbin/pccard/*

Re: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Sorry to say this, but after having to use rc.conf.site as it is now > I really kind of 'hate' it. Sorry to say this, but you really don't understand it. :) > When we had one central rc.conf file it was fun to browse through > it and having all supported knobs visible at a glance. And you stil

some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Andreas Klemm
Hi ! Sorry to say this, but after having to use rc.conf.site as it is now I really kind of 'hate' it. When we had one central rc.conf file it was fun to browse through it and having all supported knobs visible at a glance. No I have to use two vi sessions (or one ,more' and one ,vi' session) in

Re: [Call for Review] new ioctl for src/sys/pccard/*

1999-02-07 Thread Jun Kuriyama
Jun Kuriyama wrote: > I'm planning to commit these changes into src/sys/pccard/. This adds > two features. These features are obtained from PAO. Sorry, I forgot to add patch. :-) -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriy...@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriy...@freebsd.orgIndex: cardinfo.h ===

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread John S. Dyson
Matthew Dillon said: > > Ah, interesting. I understand the second bit. The first bit seems > somewhat odd, though - the automatic page coloring adjustment made > by _vm_object_allocate() doesn't work well enough for kmem_object? > There appears to be a clash. I haven't really carefu

[Call for Review] new ioctl for src/sys/pccard/*

1999-02-07 Thread Jun Kuriyama
I'm planning to commit these changes into src/sys/pccard/. This adds two features. These features are obtained from PAO. o PIOCSVIR Virtual insert/remove of pccard. This will be used "pccardc power" subcommand like as: # pccardc power [slot] 0<-- power on for [slot]

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread John S. Dyson
Matthew Dillon said: > > : next_index += PQ_L2_SIZE/4; > : if (next_index > PQ_L2_MASK) > : next_index = (next_index + 1) & PQ_L2_MASK; > > Oops, make that: > > next_index += PQ_L2_SIZE/4; > if (next_index > PQ_L2_MASK) > next_index = (next_index

Re: make world gottcha...

1999-02-07 Thread Bruce Evans
>install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 make /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp >install: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make: Is a directory Something set BINDIR (to "") in the environment. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

make world gottcha...

1999-02-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Any clues to this one ? -- >>> Making make -- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make [...] cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/

Crash seemingly related to VM or NFS...

1999-02-07 Thread Zach Heilig
In addition to the below, one [local] file that was open was severely corrupted [not on disk, it was open in 'vi' and the crash recovery file had very strange contents -- a few NULs and the standard output of a different command that I ran sometime before the crash]. On disk, files seem to be inta

emacs directories in BSD.local.dist

1999-02-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
Just curious as to why share/emacs and share/emacs/site-lisp are created by BSD.local.dist instead of by the emacs ports which might want to use them? It's not a big deal, but it seems to me that these aren't useful for the general case of someone not wanting to install an emacs port (strange as th

Re: msdosfs is dead, Jim.

1999-02-07 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
Brian Feldman wrote: > The basic problem is that msdosfs panic()s quite easily with a "zone > not free" error (INVARIANTS is /ON/ in the kernel), when I attempt to do a rw > mount of a FAT16. Don't you, by a chance, load msdosfs module dynamically? If so, the module must also be compiled with INV

Re: Netscape, again

1999-02-07 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 07-Feb-99 Chris Tubutis wrote: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> whenever I click a mailto: HREF it inadvertly dumps core. > Does it truly dump core, or does it merely go away? No, it really dumps core. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Wervenjoin #FreeBSD on Undernet asmodai(at)wxs.nl

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: next_index += PQ_L2_SIZE/4; : if (next_index > PQ_L2_MASK) : next_index = (next_index + 1) & PQ_L2_MASK; Oops, make that: next_index += PQ_L2_SIZE/4; if (next_index > PQ_L2_MASK) next_index = (next_index + PQ_PRIME1) & PQ_L2_MASK;

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Matthew Dillon said: :> :> Ah, interesting. I understand the second bit. The first bit seems :> somewhat odd, though - the automatic page coloring adjustment made :> by _vm_object_allocate() doesn't work well enough for kmem_object? :> : :The problem with it was that there appeared

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread John S. Dyson
Matthew Dillon said: > > Ah, interesting. I understand the second bit. The first bit seems > somewhat odd, though - the automatic page coloring adjustment made > by _vm_object_allocate() doesn't work well enough for kmem_object? > The problem with it was that there appeared to be a

Re: Significant page coloring improvement

1999-02-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
Ah, interesting. I understand the second bit. The first bit seems somewhat odd, though - the automatic page coloring adjustment made by _vm_object_allocate() doesn't work well enough for kmem_object? -Matt