Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: Not all will agree with this, and it is a change from the past so there needs to be a sysctl to control this. And given that it is a radical change from the past, it needs to default to open. Now, I can't tell if you wore the security-master

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Peter Wemm
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : Warner ? [.. reasons for and against ..] Not all will agree with this, and it is a change from the past so there needs to be a sysctl to control this. And given that it is a radical change from the past, it needs

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread scanner
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: We need to put audit tags into the source tree when a file is audited. That allows the diffs to be audited later which should be a smaller job and then the audit tag slides forward. Not to interrupt in the middle of this discussion but you

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread Alexey Zelkin
hi, MM I have been charged with the duty of ensuring that FreeBSD gets a MM security audit that has the credibility of OpenBSD's. What's going on with FreeBSD Auditing Project (http://www.FreeBSD.org/auditors.html) ? Is it still alive ? I think this task is task of this project members. Or

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:41 AM -0500 1999/11/24, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: Our code doesn't run an a system _anything_ like that. That may well be true today, however as FreeBSD gets more widely ported to other platforms, and as the "native" platforms it runs on progress, this might change in the

ST-506, ESDI and BAD144 ?

1999-11-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Sørens new ATA driver can handle all IDE disks as far as has been tested now, but it doesn't provide bad sector remapping which is needed for ESDI and ST-506 disks. Having two drivers fight for the same class of drivers is a rather messy process, and it complicates the code a fair bit, not to

Re: buildworld across signal changes not quite right

1999-11-24 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Mark Murray wrote: I'm not sure how to fix this problem. Unlike our other build tools, perl is not designed to be able to be cross-built: It builds bits of itself and assumes they can be safely executed to build other bits. Perl is hugely fragile; cross-building it is a big PITA. If

Re: buildworld across signal changes not quite right

1999-11-24 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
David Scheidt wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, David O'Brien wrote: Thanks to Marcel's latest Makefile.inc1 changes (1.92), a -current buildworld running on an older -current system now progresses much further - in fact it now completes :-). Actually, I've been seeing just the

Re: Threads and my new job.

1999-11-24 Thread Julian Elischer
Firstly there is some threads discussion going on in -arch so I'm going to really reply to this over there.. This is just redirector mail julian On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Jason Evans wrote: Walnut Creek has hired me as a full time employee to work primarily on improving and expanding FreeBSD's

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
"Rodney W. Grimes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not so much that they where ``allowed'' to do it, it is more the matter that they where never directly served with legal papers from USL/Novell to cease all use of Net/2. Nor did they ever enter into any agreement, that I am aware

Compiling XFree86 under Current

1999-11-24 Thread Fritz Heinrichmeyer
Here is how i compiled XFree86 today (an additonal file for /usr/ports/x11/XFree86/patches): http://es-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh/FreeBSD_Documentation/node7.html -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166

Buildworld broken in 'usr.bin/kdump' due to ipfilter

1999-11-24 Thread nnd
Buildworld of today current is broken due to importing of ip_filter's header files with ioctls which in turn broke building 'usr.bin/kdump'. It seems to me that 'mkioctls' script in 'kdump' is "over-automated" - it build the list of the 'ioctl_includes' 'grepping' through the

Re: Overflow in banner(1)

1999-11-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 09:58:51AM +0200, John Hay wrote: Well the original line is plain wrong if Brian's patch is being used, because there message is a pointer and the size of a pointer is 4. Yes, yes, yes. Warner and I are *not* that stupid WRT C. We were both commenting on the

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:33:14 -0500 (EST), Brian Fundakowski Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: #define SNPARGS(buf, len) buf + len, sizeof(buf) len ? sizeof(buf) - len : 0 char action2[32], proto[47], name[18], fragment[17]; /* Print command name */

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: : : Not all will agree with this, and it is a change from the past so : there needs to be a sysctl to control this. And given that it is a : radical change from the past, it needs to

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Wemm writes: : For example, in "workstation" mode, the reasonable default is "open", : because typically there is one user on the box (other than root) and that : person has root access. Excessive hiding info from that user just means : that they'll have to use

Re: FreeBSD security auditing project.

1999-11-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexey Zelkin writes: : What's going on with FreeBSD Auditing Project : (http://www.FreeBSD.org/auditors.html) ? Is it still alive ? : I think this task is task of this project members. Or will be ;-) Went gangbusters for a short while. Everybody was jazzed. Parts

Re: Threads and my new job.

1999-11-24 Thread Kip Macy
I will admit that I have had odd behaviours with threads in developing Lyris on FreeBSD that I have not seen on Solaris, NT, or Linux. I will see things like what appears to be the thread scheduler stop scheduling threads and just do a busy wait. I have not tracked it down any further for

Re: Overflow in banner(1)

1999-11-24 Thread David O'Brien
I've never done this myself, but I've always been under the impression that sizeof(*buf) would work for dynamically allocated buffers. sizeof() is an operator whose value is determined at compile time. sizeof(*buf) gives the size of what buf points to. This would be `1' if buf were a char*,

Re: Overflow in banner(1)

1999-11-24 Thread Dan Moschuk
| sizeof() is an operator whose value is determined at compile time. | sizeof(*buf) gives the size of what buf points to. This would be `1' if | buf were a char*, or `4' if buf were an int* [on the i386]. Ahh, so I've probably seen this concept used only on structures then. -- Dan Moschuk

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warner Losh writes: : sef has sent me patches that I've not had a chance to review that : appear to implement this. Actually, these patches do something else. My mistake for reading them before caffeine. So please

Re: Make buildworld blowing up

1999-11-24 Thread Christopher Shumway
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, David O'Brien wrote: Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Yep. ;-) yacc: e - line 30 of "c-parse.y", syntax error %expect 51 ^ *** Error code 1 The problem is rev 1.92 of src/Makefile.inc1. With that change, the tools needed to build GCC aren't

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : So please explain the logic you want implemented once people have : stopped haggeling about it, it is rather trivial. OK. I'll likely state what I'd like to see as a patch. : I pressume we want the same policy for /proc/*/cmdline as for

Re: Threads and my new job.

1999-11-24 Thread Geoff Buckingham
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 01:31:44PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: Why do we need to smite the Linux database servers? With threads in their current state they already outperform Linux's native threads by ~50x for things like sending mail. I would assume that the differences in database

calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."

- current diskless is it possible ?

1999-11-24 Thread Holm Tiffe
Hi, I have an unconventional setup at home, my PC and an little 386/40 w/o NPU and disk that is routing my net over an ISDN line with i4b to the world. (the router is because there are no free slots anymore in the PC to put the ISDN card in, it is an oldish dual P100 EISA/PCI machine running

Re: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 8:00 pm +0100 24/11/99, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ? Nov 23 00:03:35 bludnok /kernel: [boot] Nov 24 09:02:06 bludnok /kernel:

Re: - current diskless is it possible ?

1999-11-24 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Holm Tiffe writes: | Is an NFS root supported in -current ? | How is the syntax to set the rootdevice ? | How about /boot/loader and friends - and etherboot ? | (the port is outdated, it references etherboot-2.4.5.tar.gz | and no one has this old file anymore, current is 2.4.10) Yes it is

Re: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
I got a few calcru() warnings on a dual Pentium-III Xeon system. It had been up for around 9 or 10 days or so; I've since rebooted it. Specific configuration available if you need it. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Brian Somers
In the last episode (Nov 23), Lyndon Nerenberg said: After you verify that this change isn't going to break things that assume they can see the *argv list via ps(1). I.e. lightning bolts that do 'kill -MUMBLE `ps -ax|grep foo`'. Which may not be elegant style, but sometimes is the

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Wemm writes: : : In a dedicated server role, again it might be appropriate to default : it to "open" (dedicated server being something like a squid box), : again there will be a couple of sysadmin type users or people who : have to

Re: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread N
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ? Should they start or stop when a machine has been running a while? I see neither (negative calcru notices

Re: Threads and my new job.

1999-11-24 Thread Nik Clayton
Jason, On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 06:52:20PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: Walnut Creek has hired me as a full time employee to work primarily on improving and expanding FreeBSD's threads support. This is very exciting to me, and I hope my work will be of benefit the FreeBSD community. That's

RE: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 24-Nov-99 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ? I have had them for Seti@Home occasionally. The system hadn't been up for more than 24

Re: ps on 4.0-current

1999-11-24 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:03 AM + 11/24/99, Brian Somers wrote: This was discussed close to death before the changes were committed, and the current behaviour (restricted access) has been agreed by general consensus to be the most appropriate. My reading of the thread was ``I'm going to cache ps args to

Re: Threads and my new job.

1999-11-24 Thread MIHIRA Yoshiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) Lacking interfaces, such as pthread_cancel() (mentioned specifically in PR bin/7587) need to be implemented. It's good news for me. I hope to port xmovie -- QuickTime movie Player for Linux to FreeBSD. But I can not compile it under FreeBSD, because it's

Re: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 10:38:56AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24-Nov-99 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ?

Re: calcru() warnings...

1999-11-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Is this SMP ? In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], N writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I still hear reports of sporadic calcru() warnings. If any of you see these, could you try to see if they correlate to the uptime of the machine in question ? Should they start or stop when a machine has been