Re: cvs commit: src/sys/net ethernet.h

2000-07-19 Thread Nickolay Dudorov
And (the last) one more patch to make 'buildworld' successfull: Index: usr.sbin/wlconfig/wlconfig.c === RCS file: /store/CVS/src/usr.sbin/wlconfig/wlconfig.c,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -b -u -r1.8 wlconfig.c ---

world broken in libpcap

2000-07-19 Thread Samuel Tardieu
cvsup'ed 1 hour ago cc -O -pipe -I. -Dyylval=pcap_lval -DHAVE_SYS_IOCCOM_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SOCKIO_H=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_HOSTTON=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DLBL_ALIGN=1 -DINET6 -I/usr/src/lib/libpcap/../../contrib/libpcap -I/usr/src/lib/libpcap/../../contrib/libpcap/lbl

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Peter Dufault
The reason why ntp is interesting is that we compare the received data with our unpredictable local clock. It is the result of this comparison which is good entropy bits. Is the resolution of thermal sensors on many new motherboards and CPU high enough to get thermal randomness? Peter --

RE: possible NETGRAPH/NG_ETHER bug

2000-07-19 Thread Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO
[...] From: Archie Cobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Julian Elischer writes: i was working on integration of Ethernet TAP driver and NETGRAPH and found strange thing. the problem is that NG_ETHER nodes do not detach correctly when interface is gone. i was taking a very quick look at

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 19-Jul-00 Peter Dufault wrote: Is the resolution of thermal sensors on many new motherboards and CPU high enough to get thermal randomness? The voltage sensors have some noise too (maybe not enough). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sohara.webhop.net/ A

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Leif Neland
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On 19-Jul-00 Peter Dufault wrote: Is the resolution of thermal sensors on many new motherboards and CPU high enough to get thermal randomness? The voltage sensors have some noise too (maybe not enough). Fan speed too. Leif

Re: possible NETGRAPH/NG_ETHER bug

2000-07-19 Thread Archie Cobbs
Yevmenkin, Maksim N, CSCIO writes: again, here is one of the millions of possible patches that works for me :) *** ng_ether.c.old Tue Jul 18 21:17:54 2000 --- ng_ether.c Tue Jul 18 21:48:46 2000 *** *** 293,298 --- 293,299 bzero(priv, sizeof(*priv));

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexander Leidinger writes: : systems which have a more or less precise clock attached (e.g. GPS or : atomic clocks which sync the system clock via nptd)? And what are the : numbers for this solution (for those people which are interested in : numbers to be their own

fetch problem with fwtk

2000-07-19 Thread Dave Cornejo
I am using fwtk-2.1 on a firewall, and with the latest builds, fetch seems to have changed behaviors such that it no longer works with it. I have FTP_PROXY set to "red:9696" the difference in behavior seems that older versions of fetch would send a USER command like this: USER [EMAIL

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: Another good source would be if you had a Cesium clock and a GPS receiver. The delay due to atmospherics is another good source of random data. This varies +- 25ns and is highly locale dependent. One can measure this variance down to the

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Murray
[ A whole bunch of sane stuff removed ] It certainly would be better than nothing and would be a decent source of randomness. It would be my expectation that if tests were run to measure this randomness and the crypto random tests were applied, we'd find a fairly good source. The

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : A geiger counter and a smoke-detector would be *so much* cheaper : and give more bits per second :-) Agreed. And a lot less hassle. A *LOT* less hassle. :-) : It certainly would be better than nothing and would be a decent source : of

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Murray writes: : The randomness is good, no doubt; I worry about how accessible that : randomness is to an attacker? That's a good thing to worry about. : If the attacker is on your computer (he us a user, say), he might know : a lot about the current frequency

make release?

2000-07-19 Thread Gray, David W.
Is it just me, or is make release broken? I've been getting a bomb-out whilst making the boot crunch (in /bin/sh, I think. Its at home, I'm not.) I haven't seen anybody kvetching (I *do* read current...) Just to sanity check, I ran a 4.0 make release last night, that worked just fine. To

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Murray writes: [ A whole bunch of sane stuff removed ] It certainly would be better than nothing and would be a decent source of randomness. It would be my expectation that if tests were run to measure this randomness and the crypto random tests were

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Peter Dufault
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Dufault writes: : The reason why ntp is interesting is that we compare the received data : with our unpredictable local clock. It is the result of this comparison : which is good entropy bits. : : Is the resolution of thermal sensors on many new

Re: make release?

2000-07-19 Thread John Baldwin
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Is it just me, or is make release broken? I've been getting a bomb-out whilst making the boot crunch (in /bin/sh, I think. Its at home, I'm not.) I haven't seen anybody kvetching (I *do* read current...) Just to sanity check, I ran a

Re: nic cards

2000-07-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000, Tony Johnson wrote: One thing that I just noticed on the python mailing list is a portable way of retrieving an ip addy. Why not start using eth0 (unfortunately as they do in Linuxland) eth1 ... For nic cards instead of fxp0 for an intel, etc... The fxp0 way is

trafshow doesn't work?

2000-07-19 Thread Sam Xie
Hi! There, My trafshow doesn't work. Whenever I tried to run trafshow, it gave me error message says, "trafshow: : Device not configured" I check my Kernel configuration file, a line "device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet filter" is there and device drivers bpf0,

Re: trafshow doesn't work?

2000-07-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Sam Xie wrote: Hi! There, My trafshow doesn't work. Whenever I tried to run trafshow, it gave me error message says, "trafshow: : Device not configured" I check my Kernel configuration file, a line Fallout from the malloc.conf changes. tcpdump has

Default Gateway problem.

2000-07-19 Thread Elias Athanasopoulos
Hi, I have the following network: A (FreeBSD-CURRENT) - ethernet - B (Linux) - ppp - Internet 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1 I have enabled IP Masq. in 'B' and set it as the default gateway for A, issuing the command below: [A] $ ifconfig add default 192.168.1.1 When the

Re: trafshow doesn't work?

2000-07-19 Thread Leif Neland
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Sam Xie wrote: Hi! There, My trafshow doesn't work. Whenever I tried to run trafshow, it gave me error message says, "trafshow: : Device not configured" I check my Kernel configuration file, a line "device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet

Re: Default Gateway problem.

2000-07-19 Thread Doug White
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Elias Athanasopoulos wrote: Hi, I have the following network: A (FreeBSD-CURRENT) - ethernet - B (Linux) - ppp - Internet 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.1 I have enabled IP Masq. in 'B' and set it as the default gateway for A, issuing the command

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Murray
The trick here is to actually measure the quality of our entropy. I have asked Markm to provide us with some kernel option which can be used to get a copy of the entropy so we can study the quality off it. I have something that is _very_ crude, and definitely not commitworthy, but it is up

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Murray
: If the attacker is on your computer (he us a user, say), he might know : a lot about the current frequency of your xtal. He can also get the same : (remote) time offsets as you. What does that give him? Not much, but it : could reduce the bits that he needs to guess. By how much? I don't :

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Murray
If the attacker is on your computer (he us a user, say), he might know a lot about the current frequency of your xtal. He can also get the same (remote) time offsets as you. What does that give him? Not much, but it could reduce the bits that he needs to guess. By how much? I don't know.

Re: Default Gateway problem.

2000-07-19 Thread Elias Athanasopoulos
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:38:14PM -0700, Doug White wrote: [A] $ ifconfig add default 192.168.1.1 Try 'route' instead of 'ifconfig' and you might have better luck. Oops! Sorry, it was a typo. :-( The command I used is 'route'. I have no problem with my routing table (which I can show

libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
=== libexec/rtld-elf chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp -p /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec. ***

Re: libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Alfred Perlstein wrote: === libexec/rtld-elf chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp -p /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 I think we need to copy 'cp' in installworld as well.

cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ppbus ppb_base.c (fwd)

2000-07-19 Thread Nick Hibma
Could people try this out and see whether this solves any problems with detection of Zip drives? You might have to add flags=0x01 to ppc to use NIBBLE mode. If enough people respond I'll try and get this into 4.1-RC. Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: cer/b7b/pfc - pem

2000-07-19 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Leif Neland wrote: This works nicely in Windows (Outlook Express), but I'd like to try using the same key with openssl to generate crypted (to myself) or signed messages. I can export the key as a .cer, .p7b or .pfx, but openssl seems to want it in .pem format. You

Re: No /boot/loader

2000-07-19 Thread Mike Smith
No response to this on -stable. The actual error message is: Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x7004c) No /boot/loader Disk geometry stuffup, or a 'real' disk error. Also, on a whim I decided to try running /boot/loader. I got a It's not a FreeBSD executable (obviously enough), so you

Re: No /boot/loader

2000-07-19 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: No response to this on -stable. The actual error message is: Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x7004c) No /boot/loader Disk geometry stuffup, or a 'real' disk error. Well, I put my money on real disk error, but only because it vindicates my

Re: libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: === libexec/rtld-elf chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp -p /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp:No such file or directory ^ | Why is the

Re: libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000719 17:45] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: === libexec/rtld-elf chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1.old cp -p /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1

Re: dc driver and underruns (was: Strangeness with 4.0-S)

2000-07-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 08:46:40AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: That theory is not correct, I have seen multiple Alpha machines reporting buffer underruns as well. No ATA disk in sight there.. I get the same thing on AS4000/AS4100 machines running Tru64. I'm inclined to believe it's a design flaw

Re: libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread John Polstra
Alfred Perlstein wrote: I needed to add 'cp' to src/Makefile.inc1, Marcel explained it to me Oh, so it was "cp" that wasn't found, I take it. We should change the message in make so it's more like what shells say ("command not found"). but I'm sorry I did, -current is terribly broken. I

Re: libexec/rtld-elf install broken?

2000-07-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000719 18:32] wrote: Alfred Perlstein wrote: I needed to add 'cp' to src/Makefile.inc1, Marcel explained it to me Oh, so it was "cp" that wasn't found, I take it. We should change the message in make so it's more like what shells say ("command not

Re: kernel compile failure without -O option

2000-07-19 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hellmuth Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the process of tracing down the problem of the kernel panic when booting a kernel with pcvt enabled, i tried to compile a kernel without the -O option to gcc and got this compile failure (sources from 18.7.2000 9:00