Re: occasional filesystem corruption

2001-03-11 Thread Boris Popov
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > I have experienced two filesystem corruption cases recently. Both > took place in /usr filesystem, the first was file with very big [skip] > lock order reversal > ../../kern/kern_synch.c:429: sleeping with "vnode interlock" locked from >/usr/ports/net

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > > > --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= > > ote: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > >

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Maxim Sobolev
> > > --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= > ote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > Is there anything against adding suppo

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 21:20] wrote: > On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 15:21] wrote: > >> On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >>> > >>> Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the

Re: make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:29:58AM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anything against adding support for > k6-3 to the just added CPUTYPE mechanism? :) > My little machine feels left out. Hehehhe > I made a simple patch to etc/defaults/make.conf > a

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:11:09 PST, Kris Kennaway wrote: > We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- > expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is > lame. Hello? Anybody there? Am I alone in this universe? Throw the goddamned ball! [Apo

FYI: nfs performance suboptimal

2001-03-11 Thread Warner Losh
Warning: The following is a somewhat vague report, given as a fyi. I don't need a resolution on this problem, but wanted to report it. NFS server: Sony VAIO PCG-505TS uname -a: FreeBSD anvil.village.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #569: Sat Mar 10 13:17:30 MST 2001 (really Ma

Re: panic trying to play Civillization (with trace, etc.)

2001-03-11 Thread Mikhail Teterin
> Mikhail Teterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here is the trace with my attempts to browse through it. > > If you can, please reproduce the panic on a kernel compiled with the > INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT and WITNESS options. Well, with this options on, the machine does not crash, but

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 15:21] wrote: >> On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >>> >>> Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs >>> vinum does. >> >> The only sy

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Boris Popov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 20:52] wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: > > > > >What's up with devfs not gc'ing itself? Ie, after a directory > > >becomes empty it seems to still exist within the dev

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Boris Popov
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: > > >What's up with devfs not gc'ing itself? Ie, after a directory > >becomes empty it seems to still exist within the devfs namespace > >instead of disappearing. > > That was a deliberate

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 20:45] wrote: > > > > Yeah... don't really need that. :) > > > > In vinum's case there's a directory /dev/vinum/drive that points > > to the device backing the vinum device: > > > > /dev/vinum % ls -lR > > total 7 > > brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > Yeah... don't really need that. :) > > In vinum's case there's a directory /dev/vinum/drive that points > to the device backing the vinum device: > > /dev/vinum % ls -lR > total 7 > brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0x4001 Sep 26 1999 Control > brwx-- 1 root wheel 25, 0x4002

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 15:21] wrote: > On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs > > vinum does. > > The only symlinks that the non-devfs version makes are to the drives. > Everything

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 12:19] wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 12:02] wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew >Jacob writes: > > > > > > > >> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. > >

make.conf lack of CPUTYPE=k6-3 support

2001-03-11 Thread Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira
Hi, Is there anything against adding support for k6-3 to the just added CPUTYPE mechanism? :) My little machine feels left out. Hehehhe I made a simple patch to etc/defaults/make.conf and share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk Should I have touched anything else? Regards, p

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Dima Dorfman
Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:15:27PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > It should be a wrapper called mount_mdfs or mount_mfs so people upgrading > > can keep their /etc/fstab [mostly] the same. > > The latter would be best, IMO. I wrote a program to do thi

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David Wolfskill
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:11:09 -0800 >From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Hajimu UMEMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- >expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is >lame. I appreciate the validation that

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:15:27PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:11:09PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- > > expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is > > lame. > > It should be

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 02:29] wrote: >> >> I'll sneak in my experience with DEVFS+vinum here as well: >> >> vinum: loaded >> vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3s1f >> vinum: updating

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:11:09PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- > expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is > lame. It should be a wrapper called mount_mdfs or mount_mfs so people upgrading can keep their

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. Kris PGP signature

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob writes: > >> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. >Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. Yes, ideally, yes. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alfred Perlstein writes: >What's up with devfs not gc'ing itself? Ie, after a directory >becomes empty it seems to still exist within the devfs namespace >instead of disappearing. That was a deliberate decision, removing a directory(-inode) which might have a val

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:17:58 -0800 (PST) > David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: david> Accordingly, I created the following shell script to accomplish a david> similar objective, based upon the above-mentioned example in the david> mdconfig man page. At present, I have it sitting

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you > > > > use vinum. > > > Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. > > Har har har har har > > Ple

swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David Wolfskill
During the past week, I've been tracking -STABLE (daily) & -CURRENT (about 2 days out of 3) on a new laptop. (More stuff about that in the recent -mobile archives, for folks who might have an interest.) Although I realize that there are significant differences between the FreeBSD mfs vs. the Sun

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you > > > use vinum. > > Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. > Har har har har har Please take your sar

Re: panic trying to play Civillization (with trace, etc.)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Mikhail Teterin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here is the trace with my attempts to browse through it. If you can, please reproduce the panic on a kernel compiled with the INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT and WITNESS options. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you > > use vinum. > > Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. Har har har har har Almost a Catch-22... "We have to do really wierd things so vinum wi

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
I think I'm assuming that DEVFS will become standard. I really see it working very very well and solving lots of problems. I have yet to really find cases where it really *can't* work (modulo broken drivers). > > > Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hmm. Sounds to me more like an

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm. Sounds to me more like an argument for requiring devfs if you > use vinum. Not until vinum works equally well with devfs as without it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscri

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On 11 Mar 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one > > > detects a devfs system in a running system. > > Why should you care? > > Because if the system doesn't have devfs, the userland

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Matthew Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one > > detects a devfs system in a running system. > Why should you care? Because if the system doesn't have devfs, the userland vinum code needs to create the device nodes "manually".

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS (second part)

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Since you guys are in docco mode, you might as well document how one > detects a devfs system in a running system. There's an example > in the vinum(8) source: > > if (sysctlbyname("vfs.devfs.generation", NULL, NULL, NULL, 0) == 0) > devfs_is_active = 1; > else > devfs

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 12:02] wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew >Jacob writes: > > > > > >> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. > > > > Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. > > > > >Really

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 12:02] wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob >writes: > > > >> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. > > Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. > > >Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. > > Yes, ideally, yes.

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob >writes: > > > >> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. > > Right, just like most of the rest of the kernel. > > >Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. > > Yes, ideally, yes. I'm hacking the

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Matthew Jacob
> Lastly make_dev_alias() is undocumented. Really? That's a deficiency. It should be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 09:02] wrote: > Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs > > vinum does. > > Why not? make_dev_alias() is cheap and easy to use. Take a look at the /dev/vinum tree under devfs a

Threaded linux should work again

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
I fixed the bug in linux_clone() that made caused the 'not SRUN' panics in -CURRENT. Opera, Tivoli and other threaded Linux apps should now work again. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: libg2c missing?

2001-03-11 Thread Leif Neland
Solved! I had NO_FORTRAN=true on master, but not on slave. After I sync'ed the make.conf's, I could install. Leif - Original Message - From: "Leif Neland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: libg2c missing? > I've got two machine

Re: growfs

2001-03-11 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:13:38 +0100 Andrea Campi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AC> I was about to fill in a doc PR on this but then I thought I'm better off AC> checking other people experiences... A completely different question about growfs - is it fit for -stable ? If so could it be MFC'd

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs > vinum does. Why not? make_dev_alias() is cheap and easy to use. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-

-CURRENT no longer boots

2001-03-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #51: Sun Mar 11 17:31:08 CET 2001

panic trying to play Civillization (with trace, etc.)

2001-03-11 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hi! All of a sudden I can't play my game :( The new kernels all crash just trying to start the executable... Here is the trace with my attempts to browse through it. The bzip2-ed kernel and vmcore, as well as the /sys subtree are available for examination at: http://aldan.al

Re: make installworld 'kinda' broken in perl

2001-03-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > I often do 'make buildworld' on one machine > and on many other machines I do: > mount -r /usr/src > mount -r /usr/obj > > through nfs so I can do a 'make installworld' > using the prebuilt system. > > Unfortunatly the perl distribution is tryin

growfs

2001-03-11 Thread Andrea Campi
I was about to fill in a doc PR on this but then I thought I'm better off checking other people experiences... I just used growfs on my / filesystem, after shrinking the swap partition which just happened to be after it. I had to do nothing magic beside dropping to single user so as to have a ro

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010311 02:29] wrote: > > I'll sneak in my experience with DEVFS+vinum here as well: > > vinum: loaded > vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3s1f > vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1s1e > vinum: updating configuration from /dev

make installworld 'kinda' broken in perl

2001-03-11 Thread Julian Elischer
I often do 'make buildworld' on one machine and on many other machines I do: mount -r /usr/src mount -r /usr/obj through nfs so I can do a 'make installworld' using the prebuilt system. Unfortunatly the perl distribution is trying to write back to /usr/obj or /usr/src. it is the only place

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 12:03:34AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > On Saturday, 10 March 2001 at 17:12:42 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: > > > (top of tree within the last day or so): > > > > > > Things seem *almost* okay, but: > > > > > > nellie.feral.

Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it...

2001-03-11 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past > > > the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. > > > > Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-) > >

unsubscribe daniel@everad.com

2001-03-11 Thread Daniel Mester
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