Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 28 May 2003 15:29, Q wrote: By doing that aren't you assuming that the kernel will be installed on the machine that built it, and not potentially somewhere else? What about sysinstall upgrades that don't require src? Well, I am not 100% sure how the module building process works, but

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Terry Lambert
Q wrote: I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular kernel version/date/whatever, and have external modules refuse to load and/or complain if the kernel is upgraded. This should prevent unnecessary

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Q
If we are talking about something like a network interface that needs to be preloaded, then I would be inclined to see a port install the module into /usr/local/modules (which is what 'rtc' uses) and have a pkg-install message that states the need to do a 'cp /usr/local/modules/if_??.ko

[-CURRENT tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2003-05-28 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-05-28 05:27:54 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-05-28 05:27:54 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-05-28 05:29:33 - building world TB --- cd

Re: gbde Performance - 35Mb/s vs 5.2 MB/s

2003-05-28 Thread Guido van Rooij
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:25:08PM +0200, Heiko Schaefer wrote: Poul gave me the following tip on this list in a mail on Tue, 29 Apr 2003: Remember to set the sectorsize in gbde (gbde init -i) to the fragment size of your filesystem (typically 2048 for ufs), this is critical for

Re: BCM5703 GigE ifs on Supermicro X5DL8-GG m/b not detectedon5.1-BETA2 or 4.8

2003-05-28 Thread Doug White
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Tom Samplonius wrote: I don't know about Supermicro, but ASUS uses Broadcom chips with an Intel chipset on at least one workstation board: http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?langs=09m=P4G8X%20Deluxe Okay so the crack pipe is being passed around :) And what happened to

Re: [acpi-jp 2267] Re: HEADSUP: acpi patches in the tree

2003-05-28 Thread Mark Santcroos
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 05:25:27PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote: After this update, I found some error messages like this: acpi0: IntelR AWRDACPI on motherboard ACPI-0438: *** Error: Looking up

Re: gbde Performance - 35Mb/s vs 5.2 MB/s

2003-05-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guido van Rooij writes: On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:25:08PM +0200, Heiko Schaefer wrote: Poul gave me the following tip on this list in a mail on Tue, 29 Apr 2003: Remember to set the sectorsize in gbde (gbde init -i) to the fragment size of your filesystem

Keyboard not responding on X

2003-05-28 Thread Juan Rodriguez Hervella
Hello: I copy here an extract of the output of kdm.log, but I don't understand what can be happening, any comment is allowed, thankx: -- JFRHFree86 Version 4.3.0 Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8 i386 [ELF] Build

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Scott Long wrote: Q wrote: Don't overreact. Heh. I live this hell every day with Linux in my day job. I'm not suggesting taking the linux approach of versioning every module. But rather allowing the loader or a module (most likely a 3rd part or from a port) the ability to make a decision

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Harti Brandt
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: MDScott Long wrote: MD Q wrote: MD MD Don't overreact. MD MD MD Heh. I live this hell every day with Linux in my day job. MD MD I'm not suggesting taking the linux approach of MD versioning every module. But rather allowing the loader or a module MD

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica - Imported sources

2003-05-28 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 14:15:48 -0700 Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003, Larry Rosenman wrote: If this is the same patch I applied, it makes my situation WORSE, as the ACPI detach code panics now as well as Battery ops, and transition to Battery. I posted this info ~2

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:41, M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:39, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in /usr/local/src/sys/modules : : for things to build or something.. : : YUCK! : : *WHY?* : : I have asked this before BTW, and I haven't been told why it sucks. Because there are other, more

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Wed, 28 May 2003 15:29, Q wrote: : By doing that aren't you assuming that the kernel will be installed on : the machine that built it, and not potentially somewhere else? What : about sysinstall upgrades

[-CURRENT tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2003-05-28 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-05-28 08:01:40 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for ia64/ia64 TB --- 2003-05-28 08:01:40 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/ia64/ia64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-05-28 08:06:50 - building world TB --- cd

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : You need 'FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=' in the install target. True. : 1) If the port is updated between builds you end up with two version of the : port installed. True. That's a weakness in the ports system, which

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:39, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : : Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in /usr/local/src/sys/modules : : : for things to build or something.. : : : : YUCK! : : : : *WHY?* : : : :

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Harti Brandt wrote: MDNO no and again no. This would repeat the same design mistake MDthat is already in Linux. On API level you DO NOT WANT versioning. MDWhat you really want is: type signature cheking. Like for example MDdone through C++ symbol mangling rules. If you can't do it like that

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003 18:39, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in /usr/local/src/sys/modules : : for things to build or something.. : : YUCK! : : *WHY?* : : I have asked this before BTW, and I haven't been told why it sucks. Because there are

cannot resolve localhost

2003-05-28 Thread Roberto Nunnari
Hi there. it seems that my 5.0-Release box, when trying to resolve a name to the associated IP it only tries the DNSs listed in resolv.conf, and never tries /etc/hosts Also.. where is /etc/host.conf gone? I tried to create one, but it doesn't help. Here is some more info on my configuration: (I

Re: gbde Performance - 35Mb/s vs 5.2 MB/s

2003-05-28 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 10:11:19AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guido van Rooij writes: On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:25:08PM +0200, Heiko Schaefer wrote: Poul gave me the following tip on this list in a mail on Tue, 29 Apr 2003: Remember to set the

Long lines in /etc/group do not work (bin/52433)

2003-05-28 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
We are having trouble with long lines in /etc/group. The only workaround (apart from shortening the member list) is logging in via ssh. getgrouplist(3) fails if the line is longer than 1024 and getgrnam(3) has not been called on that group. login(1) and su(1) fail to add the group to the group

disklabel/bsdlabel and md(4) devices

2003-05-28 Thread Tim Robbins
This used to work but does not work any more: # mdconfig -a -t swap -s 16m md0 # disklabel -r -w md0 auto disklabel: Geom not specified # disklabel -w md0 auto disklabel: Geom not specified # disklabel md0 disklabel: Geom not specified # /dev/md0: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread David Leimbach
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 01:23 AM, Terry Lambert wrote: Q wrote: I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular kernel version/date/whatever, and have external modules refuse to load and/or complain

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-28 Thread Narvi
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Scott Long wrote: Q wrote: I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular kernel version/date/whatever, and have external modules refuse to load and/or complain if the kernel

A possible bug?

2003-05-28 Thread Zbynek Houska
Dear all, when I tryied to mount an iso image over network (using samba) my computer unexpectedly crashed. I issued this command : mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /path/to/my/file/mounted/on-local-machine and since that kernel crashed, no ping response, nothing at all. I've been connected to this