On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 02:43:13PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>
> What Doug mentioned (and I don't think was really considered, but
> is valid) would break people that use pkg_* outside of ports. I know
> of at least two instances where this would be the case (one case that
> uses pkg_* dire
On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:00 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:36:23AM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>
>> Hello, Ian.
>> You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 1:38:04:
>>
>> IL> For example, this script can replace devd as a daemon that restarts
>> IL> dhclient when any link comes
On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 01:56:11PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>>>
Hello, Lev.
You wrote 21 а
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Doug Barton wrote:
I don't think we have ever done a complete replacement of major
infrastructure in one release.
You mean like sysinstall can be used as an installer on 9 that would
do something meaningful with the current infrastructure we provide?
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:27:01AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2012-Aug-21 19:42:17 +0300, Vitalij Satanivskij wrote:
> >Look's like dhclient do down/up sequence -
>
> Not intentionally.
>
> >Aug 21 19:21:00 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP
> >Aug 21 19:21:01 home kernel: fxp0: li
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 05:25:23PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:34:31 am John Baldwin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:53:08 am Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> > > Hello, Garrett.
> > > You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
> > >
> > > GC>> Try reverting r239356 -
On 2012-Aug-21 17:25:23 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
>Ok, this is what I came up with, somewhat loosely based on OpenBSD's dhclient.
>I tested that it survives the following:
I've also done some limited testing on both bge and fxp NICs and
haven't run into any problems. In particular the spurious
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:36:23AM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Ian.
> You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 1:38:04:
>
> IL> For example, this script can replace devd as a daemon that restarts
> IL> dhclient when any link comes back up...
>
> IL> Of course the right thing to do is invoke the
Hello, John.
You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 1:25:23:
JB> Ok, this is what I came up with, somewhat loosely based on OpenBSD's
dhclient.
JB> I tested that it survives the following:
JB> - Unplugging/replugging does not kill an existing ssh session
JB> - Using ifconfig down/up does not kill an exis
Hello, Ian.
You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 1:38:04:
IL> For example, this script can replace devd as a daemon that restarts
IL> dhclient when any link comes back up...
IL> Of course the right thing to do is invoke the proper rc scripts rather
IL> than dhclient directly... this is just to illustrat
On 2012-Aug-21 19:42:17 +0300, Vitalij Satanivskij wrote:
>Look's like dhclient do down/up sequence -
Not intentionally.
>Aug 21 19:21:00 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP
>Aug 21 19:21:01 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to DOWN
>Aug 21 19:21:01 home dhclient: New IP Address (fxp
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 01:56:11PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> >
> >> Hello, Lev.
> >> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
> >>
> >> GC>> Try reverting r239356
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 1:08 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/21/2012 12:42 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:38:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 14:04 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>
> > Hello, Ian.
> > You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:36:30:
> >
> > IL> I think it's funny how people have this knee-jerk reaction against C++
> > IL> apps. The devd executable is not e
On 20.08.12 10:32, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 08/15/2012 03:18, Alexander Motin wrote:
>>
>> It is quite pointless to speculate without real info like mentioned
>> above KTR_SCHED traces.
>
> I'm sorry, you're quite wrong about that. In the cases I mentioned, and
> in about 2 out of 3 of the cases wh
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:34:31 am John Baldwin wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:53:08 am Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> > Hello, Garrett.
> > You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
> >
> > GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
> > LS> I'm confused by this
Hello, Warner.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 23:56:11:
WL> mosh helps.
And what helps in case of on-line backup? Not every network protocol
and protocol implementation, unfortunately, supports automatic
resume :(
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Hello, Warner.
You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 0:04:41:
>> BTW, typical MIPS SoC-based router has only 16MiB of flash. And,
>> yes, FreeBSD doesn't fit well in this size now, but why add another
>> mandatory program, only role of which is to monitor network cable and
>> re-run the same program
Hello, Warner.
You wrote 22 августа 2012 г., 0:02:18:
WL> Haven't looked at the dhclient issues surrounding this tread, but
WL> C++ size and bloat of devd is an argument not supported by the objective
facts.
Ok, lets leave C++ alone, but intended address removal (See PR
comments) is POLA violati
On 8/21/2012 1:08 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> On 8/21/2012 12:42 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:38:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> 1/ if it fits the schedul
On Aug 21, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 12:42 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:38:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current
to be abl
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Ian.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:36:30:
>
> IL> I think it's funny how people have this knee-jerk reaction against C++
> IL> apps. The devd executable is not exactly an example of bloatware: 374k
> IL> statically linked (so it
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 21:01 +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>> IL> The important point is that if you unplug the cable then plug it into a
>> IL> different network, now the right thing will happen -- you will acquire
>> IL> an address on the new net
On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>
>> Hello, Lev.
>> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
>>
>> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
>> LS> I'm confused by this comm
On 8/21/2012 12:42 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:38:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> 1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current
>>> to be able to have a fully pkgng only 10-RELEASE
>>
>> I think i
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:38:04PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > 1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current to be
> > able to have a fully pkgng only 10-RELEASE
>
> I think it would fit better with historic precedents to make pk
On 8/21/2012 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> 1/ if it fits the schedule: get rid of pkg_* tools in current to be
> able to have a fully pkgng only 10-RELEASE
I think it would fit better with historic precedents to make pkg
optional (but default on) in 10, and mandatory in 11. As stated
befor
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:18:15PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> SO> Not re-request lease, simple renew.
> Sorry, I'm not very strong in exact terms here.
dhcp client can sent different requests:
DHCPDISCOVER from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255
DHCPREQUEST from 0.0.0.0 to SERVER_IP (from DHCPOFF
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:47:36AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> > On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits
> >> the
> >> schedule.
> >
> > Um, no?
>
> ...
On 8/21/2012 11:47 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
>>> schedule.
>>
>> Um, no?
>
> ...
>
>> What _would_ be useful
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
>> schedule.
>
> Um, no?
...
> What _would_ be useful is what should have been done many years ago when
> it was
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:17:36AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
> > schedule.
>
> Um, no?
>
> Until pkg becomes mandatory (which can't happen for several years) the
> pk
Hello, Slawa.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:47:46:
SO> Not re-request lease, simple renew.
Sorry, I'm not very strong in exact terms here.
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On 8/21/2012 6:46 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> I would also like to just remove pkg_* tools from RELENG_10 if that fits the
> schedule.
Um, no?
Until pkg becomes mandatory (which can't happen for several years) the
pkg_* tools can't be removed altogether.
What _would_ be useful is what should
On 8/21/2012 6:34 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
> Humm. devd is the more common case, and we explicitly don't use devd to
> start
> dhclient on boot even when devd is enabled (so out of the box dhcp would
> first
> be started by rc, but would be restarted by devd).
That sounds reasonable. People w
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 09:40:27PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Ian.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:36:30:
>
> IL> Perhaps the right solution is to add a dhclient command line option to
> IL> operate in the historical buggy mode: it doesn't exit on link status
> IL> changes, and fai
Hello, Ian.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:36:30:
IL> I think it's funny how people have this knee-jerk reaction against C++
IL> apps. The devd executable is not exactly an example of bloatware: 374k
IL> statically linked (so it already includes this "C++ runtime" that you
IL> think is large).
Hello, Ian.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 21:36:30:
IL> Perhaps the right solution is to add a dhclient command line option to
IL> operate in the historical buggy mode: it doesn't exit on link status
IL> changes, and fails to work properly if those link status changes are
IL> happening because the
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 21:01 +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> IL> The important point is that if you unplug the cable then plug it into a
> IL> different network, now the right thing will happen -- you will acquire
> IL> an address on the new network. That's the reason that this change is an
> IL> i
On 2012-08-21 13:45, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Lev.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
>
> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
> LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
> LS> that dhclient will not work without d
Hello, Ian.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 19:55:07:
IL> I don't know what "teardown the configured lease" in that comment means,
IL> but it doesn't mean that the interface loses its current configuration,
IL> or that any existing connections are perturbed.
Sorry, but comment in PR:
http://www
Garrett Cooper wrote:
GC> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Vitalij Satanivskij wrote:
GC> > Hi all,
GC> >
GC> > After last update my home machine begin doin some strange things -
GC>
GC> ...
GC>
GC> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
GC> -Garrett
Yes i'm revert
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 19:26 +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Ian.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 19:16:03:
>
> IL> It has worked this way for me for years. Does it somehow not work this
> IL> way for everyone?
>Please, read comment to r239356. Starting from this revision
> dhclient ex
Hello, Ian.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 19:16:03:
IL> It has worked this way for me for years. Does it somehow not work this
IL> way for everyone?
Please, read comment to r239356. Starting from this revision
dhclient exists on interface down and _remiove_ IP address from
interface. Removal
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 19:04 +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, John.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 17:34:31:
>
> JB> Humm. devd is the more common case, and we explicitly don't use devd to
> start
> JB> dhclient on boot even when devd is enabled (so out of the box dhcp would
> first
> JB>
Hello, John.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 17:34:31:
JB> Humm. devd is the more common case, and we explicitly don't use devd to
start
JB> dhclient on boot even when devd is enabled (so out of the box dhcp would
first
JB> be started by rc, but would be restarted by devd).
It is strange, an
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:53:08 am Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Garrett.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
>
> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
> LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
> LS> that dhclient w
On 2012-08-19 16:01, Randy Bush wrote:
...
c++ -O2 -pipe -DIPFIREWALL_NAT -march=pentium
-I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmcore/../../../contrib/llvm/include
-I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmcore/../../../contrib/llvm/tools/clang/include
-I/usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmcore/../../../contrib/llvm/lib/VMCore
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:26:43PM +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote:
> Hi Baptise,
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:43:13PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >
> > Since 1.0-rc6 release, everything looks ready for a final release of 1.0,
> > I'll
> > give more details on the release commit bit :) this
On Mon, August 20, 2012 17:54, Randy Bush wrote:
> -O allowed it to buildworld!
Should be marginally faster compiling too .. good to hear :-)
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Hi Baptise,
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:43:13PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>
> Since 1.0-rc6 release, everything looks ready for a final release of 1.0, I'll
> give more details on the release commit bit :) this is planned for 30th august
> 2012.
>
> Current was supposed to switch to pkgng
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Lev.
> You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
>
> GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
> LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
> LS> that dhclient w
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 22:24:56 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If you are not using geli(4) on -CURRENT (AKA FreeBSD 10) you can safely
> ignore this mail. If you are, please read on!
>
> -CURRENT users of geli(4) should be advised that, a geli(4) device may
> have weak master key,
Today I ran into a problem with FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r239477
recompiling the VBox kernel module:
===> Cleaning for virtualbox-ose-kmod-4.1.18_1
===> virtualbox-ose-kmod-4.1.18_1 is marked as broken: Does not compile
on FreeBSD < 8.2.
*** [all] Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtua
Hello, Garrett.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous
LS> dhcp" option in r
Hello, Lev.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35:
GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous
LS> dhcp" option in rc.co
Hello, Garrett.
You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:18:05:
GC> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone),
that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous
dhcp" option in rc.conf).
Am
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Vitalij Satanivskij wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After last update my home machine begin doin some strange things -
...
Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know.
-Garrett
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Hi all,
After last update my home machine begin doin some strange things -
Aug 21 08:28:25 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP
Aug 21 08:28:25 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to DOWN
Aug 21 08:28:27 home kernel: fxp0: link state changed to UP
Aug 21 08:28:33 home dhclient: New IP A
on 21/08/2012 04:59 Scott Long said the following:
> This gets brought up from time to time, and I honestly thought that I swept
> most of the problems up a few years ago. The mistake that I made in the mlx
> driver that was recently corrected was evidence of a previous sweep.
>
> If anyone wants
On 20/08/2012 21:43, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Since 1.0-rc6 release, everything looks ready for a final release of 1.0, I'll
> give more details on the release commit bit :) this is planned for 30th august
> 2012.
Congratulations, it's great! :)
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