Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I use gbde. Can switch to geli, if required, but please provide detailed instructions for switching before removing gbde. Anton ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 01:52:05AM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I use gbde. > > Can switch to geli, if required, > > but please provide detailed instructions > > for switching before removing gbde. > > Such instructions would presumably be

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Perry Hutchison
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use gbde. > Can switch to geli, if required, > but please provide detailed instructions > for switching before removing gbde. Such instructions would presumably be included in the UPDATING entry. An additional consideration: If there is no

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 01:52:05AM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: > > > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > I use gbde. > > > Can switch to geli, if required, > > > but please provide detailed instructions > > > for switching before removing gbde. >

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Ed Maste
On 19 October 2015 at 16:50, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > O. Hartmann wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:19 +0200: >> For me, I'd like to know what is the benefit/performance of each technique >> and >> a clear preparation of each ones advantages over the other. That

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: John-Mark Gurney > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:50:08 -0700 John-Mark Gurney wrote: > So, one thing that the docs talk about is that geli uses the crypto(9) Interesting.

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
O. Hartmann wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:19 +0200: > For me, I'd like to know what is the benefit/performance of each technique and > a clear preparation of each ones advantages over the other. That would make > the > decission process much easier and hopefully would not scare

[patch] bug 187081 (swaplate fix)

2015-10-19 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Hi all. I recently added my own patch to bug https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=187081 Can anyone take a look? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Yonas Yanfa
Hi Martin, thanks, that raises some interesting points. After reading PHK's paper on GBDE, I can see enough differences between GDBE and GELI that warrant keeping GDBE. [ At this point for me, this part is theoretical, but it's still interesting ] I've seen the concerned made a few times that we

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Martin Cracauer
Yonas Yanfa wrote on Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 06:36:19AM -0400: > > Is there any objection to removing gbde? How many people use gbde? When > have you used gbde over geli, and why? You would exclude all current users from accessing their existing filesystems or whatever they put into that block

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:19:30 +0200 O. Hartmann wrote: > When I looked for FreeBSD's encryption, I stopped by GELI. Because of > it's easy-to-use AND the 'experimental' tag in the handbook! > > For me, I'd like to know what is the benefit/performance of each > technique and a clear preparation

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread NGie Cooper
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Martin Cracauer wrote: > Yonas Yanfa wrote on Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 06:36:19AM -0400: >> >> Is there any objection to removing gbde? How many people use gbde? When >> have you used gbde over geli, and why? > > You would exclude all current users

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Ed Maste wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 17:13 -0400: > On 19 October 2015 at 16:50, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > O. Hartmann wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:19 +0200: > >> For me, I'd like to know what is the benefit/performance of each technique > >>

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , NGie Cooper writes: >1. Why are there 2 competing technologies? They are not competing, they support two very different threat models. >3. Is there a gain/loss for removing gbde? Yes, you alienate a lot

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Ed Maste wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 17:13 -0400: On 19 October 2015 at 16:50, John-Mark Gurney wrote: O. Hartmann wrote this message on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:19 +0200: For me, I'd like to know what is the

Re: Depreciate and remove gbde

2015-10-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20151019234855.4ed82...@gumby.homeunix.com>, RW writes: >I certainly wouldn't like to see gbde removed but I think it is >unfortunate that it's given slightly greater prominence in the handbook >than geli. geli is the right choice for most people. This I fully agree with.