Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-30 Thread Doug Barton
renaming, NBSD will support all NGNU options. Thank you for the suggestion. Oleg -Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@freebsd.org] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:02 PM To: Oleg Moskalenko Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-30 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
- From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Oleg Moskalenko Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:45 PM To: FreeBSD Current Subject: RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT Hi As promised, I am supplying an example of comparison

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-29 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
Of Oleg Moskalenko Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:45 PM To: FreeBSD Current Subject: RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT Hi As promised, I am supplying an example of comparison between several sort programs. The test file is a randomly generated 1,000,000 lines, each

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/29/2012 01:50 PM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: 5) NBSD adds several of its own new proprietary options: --mergesort --qsort --heapsort --radixsort --nthreads=... (multi-threaded build only) Oleg, First, thank you very much for providing both the performance numbers, and the

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-29 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
-Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@freebsd.org] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:02 PM To: Oleg Moskalenko Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 06/29/2012 01:50 PM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: 5) NBSD adds several of its own new

[HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Gabor Kovesdan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default sort in -CURRENT has been changed to BSD sort. Since the import, the reported minor bugs have been fixed and BSD sort has passed the portbuild test. If you encounter any problems or incompatibility with

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread O. Hartmann
On 06/27/12 08:04, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default sort in -CURRENT has been changed to BSD sort. Since the import, the reported minor bugs have been fixed and BSD sort has passed the portbuild test. If you encounter any problems or incompatibility with

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/26/2012 11:04 PM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default sort in -CURRENT has been changed to BSD sort. Has this been performance tested vs. the old one? If so, where are the results? Since the import, the reported minor bugs have been fixed and BSD sort

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
-Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:18 PM To: Gabor Kovesdan Cc: FreeBSD Current; Oleg Moskalenko Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 06/26/2012 11:04 PM, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/26/2012 11:48 PM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: -Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@freebsd.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:18 PM To: Gabor Kovesdan Cc: FreeBSD Current; Oleg Moskalenko Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 06/26

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
...@freebsd.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:35 AM To: Oleg Moskalenko Cc: Gabor Kovesdan; FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 06/26/2012 11:48 PM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: -Original Message- From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@freebsd.org

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow. That's great, thanks. But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort bugs. It makes no sense and I am not going to do that. Absolutely not. That isn't what I said.

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Daniel Gerzo
On 27.06.2012 10:43, Doug Barton wrote: On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow. That's great, thanks. But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort bugs. It makes no sense and I am not going to do

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Marcus von Appen
Daniel Gerzo dan...@freebsd.org: On 27.06.2012 10:43, Doug Barton wrote: On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow. That's great, thanks. But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort bugs. It makes no

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/27/2012 03:02 AM, Daniel Gerzo wrote: On 27.06.2012 10:43, Doug Barton wrote: On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow. That's great, thanks. But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort bugs. It

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 27/6/12, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org ha scritto: ... I believe we do not make this kind of work with any vendor code that is being updated in the base; Au contraire, we frequently avoid updating the old versions of things we have in the base precisely because they are not

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/27/2012 07:30 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Mer 27/6/12, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org ha scritto: ... I believe we do not make this kind of work with any vendor code that is being updated in the base; Au contraire, we frequently avoid updating the old versions of things we have

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 27/6/12, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org ha scritto: ... Nope. I would think only the maintainer of the package has the authority to make any request in the lines of being bug-for-bug compatible You have a seriously wrong idea of maintainer. The community owns the software,

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
-Original Message- But I do not agree with you that we have to reproduce the old sort bugs. It makes no sense and I am not going to do that. Absolutely not. That isn't what I said. What I asked is for you to *test* the existing sort vs. the new one, and to report where the

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT Daniel Gerzo dan...@freebsd.org: On 27.06.2012 10:43, Doug Barton wrote: On 06/27/2012 02:09 AM, Oleg Moskalenko wrote: Doug, I'll post some performance figures, probably tomorrow. That's great, thanks

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 06/27/2012 07:30 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Mer 27/6/12, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org ha scritto: ... I believe we do not make this kind of work with any vendor code that is being updated in the base; Au

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Barton
I officially withdraw from the discussion. I hope it all works out well. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
Ah, I just tried sort on freebsd (5.3.0) versus sort on macosx 10.6 (5.93) - what a strange bug. We _could've_ fixed this with an import of the latest gnu sort and then migrated to a feature/bug compatible bsdsort, but I do see your point(s). :-) There's a fine line to walk between keeping POLA

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread olli hauer
On 2012-06-27 08:04, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default sort in -CURRENT has been changed to BSD sort. Since the import, the reported minor bugs have been fixed and BSD sort has passed the portbuild test. If you encounter any problems or incompatibility with

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
On Jun 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Doug Barton wrote: So can we please stop pretending that it's me who's the problem, and start looking at these things rationally? What is your short list of issues? From a high level there appear to be none, but the devil is in the details, eh? From earlier in

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
- From: olli hauer [mailto:oha...@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:56 AM To: FreeBSD Current Cc: Gabor Kovesdan; Oleg Moskalenko Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 2012-06-27 08:04, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread olli hauer
:56 AM To: FreeBSD Current Cc: Gabor Kovesdan; Oleg Moskalenko Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT On 2012-06-27 08:04, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: Hi Folks, as I announced before, the default sort in -CURRENT has been changed to BSD sort. Since the import

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Gabor Kovesdan
On 2012.06.27. 10:34, Doug Barton wrote: Great, can you post the results somewhere? I understand what you're saying below that there are situations where worse performance may need explanation, but it would be helpful if we had the data to look at. If something is buggy than it is not comparable

Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Gabor Kovesdan
On 2012.06.27. 8:11, O. Hartmann wrote: ... so, can I delete the entry WITH_BSD_SORT=yes in /etc/src.conf then? Yes. BSD sort will still be the default. And if you want default GNU sort, you can add WITH_GNU_SORT=yes. Gabor ___

RE: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT

2012-06-27 Thread Oleg Moskalenko
Hi As promised, I am supplying an example of comparison between several sort programs. The test file is a randomly generated 1,000,000 lines, each line contain a single floating point number. We are going to sort it three ways - as text, as -n numeric sort, and as -g numeric sort, with 4