I installed 4.0 on a notebook yesterday, using the docking station. As previously described, I had hardware probing problems without using the ethernet card in the docking station. Well, sadly, X11 requires an extra option or two to work when with the docking station, but I figured that out and that works too. Here are some observations: 1) I isntalled from ftp.freebsd.org -- the RSAREF package install failed, breaking SSH and friends. 2) I chose the gnome/afterstep desktop combo--some of the afterstep icons were broken 3) I switched to the gnome/enlightenment combo--the file manager never turned up, and the console spewed warnings from Perl about locale settings I realize that these are all ports-related problems, but they're very visible points of failure, that would turn up early in any review in a magazine or the like :-). Robert N M Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message