Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-27 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:25:37PM +0200, Guido van Rooij wrote: > > How about adding a hint to the hint driver itself. E.g. > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata > hint "hintsfile"# see hint(4) I don't think this is enough. If I botch my hints file enough (and lets

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-26 Thread Guido van Rooij
On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 06:32:47PM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > > > Should this become: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata > hint.ata.0.at="isa" > hint.

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-26 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Michael Wlliams wrote: > > I'm catching up on email, sorry if this was answered... are you talking > OBP/Forth > on Suns? Try > ok sifting foo > to get a list of words with foo in them (kinda like grep foo). Try > ok see foo > to see the details of the word (if you get forth this will help.) > >

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:27:28 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > This definitely needs some work. I'm not sure the hints syntax will > change much, if at all. OTOH, I don't know how to approach this. In > other words, suggestions (and specially patches) are welcome. Actually, I think that this

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-25 Thread Michael Wlliams
I'm catching up on email, sorry if this was answered... are you talking OBP/Forth on Suns? Try ok sifting foo to get a list of words with foo in them (kinda like grep foo). Try ok see foo to see the details of the word (if you get forth this will help.) If you're not doing forth/obp... my apologi

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-25 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mike Pritchard wrote: > > I just noticed that this change has now made a lot of the section 4 > man pages out of date. > > What is the best way to represent these changes in the man pages? > A good example is ata(4). Currently it reads like this: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata0

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-24 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > change *ALL* "device foo0 at isa? port blah etc" to "device foo" - see > GENERIC for examples. All the 'at ? port ?' stuff is handled by > the new /boot/device.hints > See GENERIC - if you use a static limited device (eg: fe, aha,

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-21 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > That's fine. However, this practically makes using /boot/loader > mandatory. I still wonder if having some in-kernel interpreter wouldn't > give us more choice, with exactly the same functionality. Of course, it > would have to be run before any probing starts... If y

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrzej Bialecki writes: : That's fine. However, this practically makes using /boot/loader : mandatory. I still wonder if having some in-kernel interpreter wouldn't : give us more choice, with exactly the same functionality. Of course, it : would have to be run befo

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-20 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > > > This thread is long, so maybe I missed something.. Can we have the *.hints > > file loadable as a module of some special type (like kernel.conf), and > > searched for during configuration like userconfig did? > > Fun

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-20 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > This thread is long, so maybe I missed something.. Can we have the *.hints > file loadable as a module of some special type (like kernel.conf), and > searched for during configuration like userconfig did? Funny you got no reply. This is not necessary. If you copy sai

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-18 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Peter Wemm wrote: > Chia-liang Kao wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there anyway to put the device.hint stuff into kernel nevertheless? > > My diskless box fetches the kernel would know nothing about things reside > > in device.hint. > > That is what the hints directive is for. >

RE: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-16 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 13-Jun-00 Peter Wemm wrote: > *** CAUTION IS REQUIRED ***! > > FYI, an intrusive commit has been done that requires careful attention. If > you ignore this or mess it up, it can burn your house down, shoot your dog, > close your bank accounts, report you to the IRS, or maybe even something >

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-16 Thread Peter Wemm
Chia-liang Kao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there anyway to put the device.hint stuff into kernel nevertheless? > My diskless box fetches the kernel would know nothing about things reside > in device.hint. That is what the hints directive is for. you could create a file "diskless.hints" and add the line

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-16 Thread Chia-liang Kao
Hi, Is there anyway to put the device.hint stuff into kernel nevertheless? My diskless box fetches the kernel would know nothing about things reside in device.hint. Cheers, CLK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Matthew Jacob
> > Uh, 'help' doesn't give you a list of commands I believe. > > Damn, it doesn't either. 'help' is the same as 'help help'. > > Suggestions for a better replacement for ? 'commands'? Just change unadorned help to say 'help help' to get a list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Marc van Woerkom
> Uh, 'help' doesn't give you a list of commands I believe. According to loader(8) it means: ? Same as ``help index''. I did not try yet if that one works correctly. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body o

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Mike Smith
> Uh, 'help' doesn't give you a list of commands I believe. Damn, it doesn't either. 'help' is the same as 'help help'. Suggestions for a better replacement for ? 'commands'? -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Matthew Jacob
Uh, 'help' doesn't give you a list of commands I believe. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > On 15 Jun, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > > > > 3. in the boot loader I miss the list of commands, > > >? (i hope this was the command) just yields a number > > > > I also see this. > > Th

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Mike Smith
> On 15 Jun, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > > 3. in the boot loader I miss the list of commands, > >? (i hope this was the command) just yields a number > > I also see this. The use of ? was a bad idea, since it's special to Forth. Use 'help' instead. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Marc van Woerkom
> 4. I thought I put just the sym driver in the kernel, why do I >see ncr? (see next item) Now it is back to using sym. Possibly some configuration mistake by me. Regards, Marc PS Here is the diff.. -FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #15: Thu Jun 15 00:25:51 CEST 2000 +FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #16:

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 15 Jun, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >> c) is much more interesting: With the new kernel my syscons scrolling >> stopped working. However, this could also be jake's fault, I'll ask >> him. > > Still works like a charm here. Maybe problem is elsewhere? I have the same problem as Alexander, nut it onl

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 15 Jun, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > 3. in the boot loader I miss the list of commands, >? (i hope this was the command) just yields a number I also see this. > 5. Here are the dmesg differences between the February and the new >kernel. Could you explain the unassigned resources messag

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Marc van Woerkom
Another way to reboot the system is vidcontrol 80x50 Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Alexander Langer wrote: > c) is much more interesting: With the new kernel my syscons scrolling > stopped working. However, this could also be jake's fault, I'll ask > him. Still works like a charm here. Maybe problem is elsewhere? -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-15 Thread Marc van Woerkom
Hi! I was able to build and boot, starting from a February -CURRENT but there are some oddities. 1. I had to disable linux emulation, as it caused system hangup Yes I followed the hint on rebranding from src/UPDATING 2. My system seems to have a problem with fsck I had to use the old Feb

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-14 Thread Alexander Langer
Hello Peter! I just have things running. I see that the kernel boots _much_ faster now. I don't know, if you wanted that or if this is a nice side-effect. However, a few comments, which might be of interest. Some of those are probably planned by you already. a) the device.hints file: It will pr

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Peter Wemm wrote: > > The only change in /boot is /boot/defaults/loader.conf: > > diff -r1.26 -r1.27 > 24c24 > < loader_conf_files="/boot/loader.conf /boot/loader.conf.local" > --- > > loader_conf_files="/boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf /boot/loader.conf.local" > > ie: /boot/device.hints is

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-14 Thread Manfred Antar
At 01:20 AM 6/14/2000 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: >Peter Wemm wrote: > >> # update /boot/loader.conf >> cd src/sys/boot; make obj depend all install > >Of course, it would be just my luck that there is a loader bug right now, >and this command will throw you into the fire. ;-( If your loader >compla

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-14 Thread Peter Wemm
Peter Wemm wrote: > # update /boot/loader.conf > cd src/sys/boot; make obj depend all install Of course, it would be just my luck that there is a loader bug right now, and this command will throw you into the fire. ;-( If your loader complains about not being version 0.3+ or later and aborting,

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-13 Thread Peter Wemm
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > # I cannot stress this enough: **SAVE A WORKING /kernel** > > cp /kernel /kernel.works > > Save a working /modules and /boot as well. Which is always good advice, but I can clarify the effect on these... The only change in /boot is /boot/defaults/loader.conf: diff

Re: HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-13 Thread Matthew Jacob
> # I cannot stress this enough: **SAVE A WORKING /kernel** > cp /kernel /kernel.works Save a working /modules and /boot as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

HEADS UP!: config changes...

2000-06-13 Thread Peter Wemm
*** CAUTION IS REQUIRED ***! FYI, an intrusive commit has been done that requires careful attention. If you ignore this or mess it up, it can burn your house down, shoot your dog, close your bank accounts, report you to the IRS, or maybe even something bad. An old version 51 config(8) will (