Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-07 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:06 -0400 (EDT), "Brandon D. Valentine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sounds like a good enough reason to me to port the newer NetBSD LFS code to FreeBSD. Or, even better, for someone to implement background fsck for soft updates. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-07 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:51:06 -0400 (EDT), "Brandon D. Valentine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sounds like a good enough reason to me to port the newer NetBSD LFS code to FreeBSD. Or, even better, for someone to implement background fsck for soft updates.

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-07 Thread Rahul Dhesi
I recently wrote: It's not the green that's important, it's the 'OK'. The way Redhat Linux boots, you can see at a glance which start-up commands failed and which ones succeeded. The way FreeBSD boots, it's all one big blur. Also, in the Linux scheme, there is a standard mechanism to keep

HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Thomas Gellekum
Moin, sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after themselves. All the ports

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Rahul Dhesi
Thomas Gellekum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like databases to call their own shutdown methods and clean up after themselves This will make it a bit harder to

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Rahul Dhesi wrote: Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in that direction. It's not the green that's important, it's the 'OK'. The way Redhat Linux boots, you can see at a glance which start-up commands

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Thomas D. Dean
We have gone to some pains in the past to make the rc.d scripts silent. Either work or fail silently. if [ -x ... ]; do ... done Now, with the addition of the start/stop, there is a message output if the argument is not 'start' or 'stop'. The default should be 'start'. These scripts

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000, Rahul Dhesi wrote: Linh Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) j/k I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in that direction. It's not the green that's important, it's the 'OK'. The way

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000, Adrian Chadd wrote: And its actually very useful IMHO. Thats what rc.conf is for though, right? enable_pkg_apache="YES" enable_pkg_qmail="YES" enable_pkg_mysql="YES" and so on .. ? Before people start going "huh?" .. that was an idea, not an outline as to what

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Jonathan Smith
Quickie question: By implementing the 'start' and 'stop' in the local scripts, how much should one _expect_ their systems bootup and slow down times to take? I'm hearing whines of being to linux like, to sysv'ish and some likely valid complaints on startup/shutdown time. I, for one, like the

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 12:53:09PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: Many Linux distributions do this too. It seems about as useful as a car's idiot light(s)... IMO, I would prefer to see useful information during boot than that eye-candy.

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 06), Thomas Gellekum said: sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like databases to call their own shutdown

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Linh Pham
In the last episode (Jul 06), Thomas Gellekum said: sorry for the late notice, I forgot to mail this yesterday. /etc/rc.shutdown in -current has been changed to call the scripts in ${local_startup} with the `stop' option. This allows packages like databases to call their own shutdown

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: : : Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) : : j/k : :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in :that direction. HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Linh Pham
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: : : Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) : : j/k : :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in :that direction. HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Chris D. Faulhaber
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: : : Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) : : j/k : :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in :that direction. HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Walter Campbell
HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to boot (which does not include the POST/memory check/BIOS screen) was a 486SX/33

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: Many Linux distributions do this too. It seems about as useful as a car's idiot light(s)... IMO, I would prefer to see useful information during boot than that eye-candy. I'd prefer to buy a box of blinkenlights to put in a spare 5.25" bay and let

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Doug White
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Rahul Dhesi wrote: Linh Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) j/k I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in that direction. It's not the green that's important, it's the 'OK'. The way

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Mike Meyer
Jonathan Smith writes: I, for one, like the functionality, and thought it kinda already worked that way (or maybe I _made_ it work that way on my machines, cn't remember). I would like solid facts, rather than a religious/exagerated discussion. I agree. I first ran into this on solaris. I

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to fsck. Sounds like a good enough reason to me to port the newer NetBSD LFS code to FreeBSD. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter Campbe ll writes: HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot An hour to boot? Boy... the only time I ever saw a machine take an hour to boot (which does not

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Richard Stanaford
--- Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An Alpha my team manages with 1 TB of images on UFS takes 4 hours to fsck. Now that's a bit of thrashing, eh? Jordan, or anyone else who might know.. How long does it take "our" beast (ftp.freebsd.org) to bring up

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread Travis Cole
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 06:53:49PM -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter Campbe ll writes: HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot An