Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-15 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Nate Williams wrote: Only in very rare cases do we run into a problem where we have to create a branch. In that case, the developer responsible for the release creates a branch from his checked out tree (there's no law against creating a branch from sources that are

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to-CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-15 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 2:17 PM -0500 3/15/02, Robert Watson wrote: My feeling is that at this point, we probably should just use Perforce due to limitations in CVS. This seems fine to me. I am uneasy about perforce in cases where someone is developing something which is *meant* to be merged back into the main

CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Peter Wemm
Murray Stokely wrote: On March 15, a RELENG_5_0_DP1 branch will be created in CVS for final release polishing. This will allow us to provide translated release notes, sync up sysinstall and the package set, bump version numbers, and tweak default diagnostic settings without further

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Bruce A. Mah
[Trimming Cc list a little bit] If memory serves me right, Peter Wemm wrote: Actually, with my CVS hat on, I have a *huge* problem with this. In the future, if you see such huge problems come up, a little more advance notice might be nice. :-( We have a large number of temporary repo

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on HEAD without calling for a code freeze

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Bruce A. Mah wrote: I can't imagine why anyone would expect to cvsup this thing at some point in the distant future Rule number one of release engineering... user's will do all kinds of wacky stuff that you would never expect them to do, and complain bitterly when

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Robert Watson
On 15 Mar 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's worth noting, BTW, that originally the release engineering team planned to use Perforce for this to avoid the branch issue entirely, minimize impact on the main tree, etc, but decided not to due to the high volume of complaints on the topic. If it

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Stokely
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:32:00AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Stokely
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:40:08PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: If this is going to be a static release (calling it RELENG_5_anything is a mistake IMHO) then this isn't a big deal. But if people are expecting it to have ongoing secirity fixes etc like we do with RELENG_4_5 etc then we have a

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-11 Thread John Baldwin
On 08-Mar-02 Wilko Bulte wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:35:47PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. Yes. Or panic. See my posts earlier this week. I managed to get 2 buildworlds without accidents, but all make release attempts

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Matthew Jacob wrote: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. I managed to panic my 4-cpu 4100 yesterday with a 'make -j8 buildworld' I'm going to look at that today. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread Chris Hedley
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Chris Hedley wrote: ... about a crash ... Just in case anyone needs to know, I had another couple of panics today when trying to newfs_msdos /dev/fd0, seems something in readdisklabel isn't too happy. Chris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-09 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
I'm able to compile kdelibs now, no problem as well as QT, but when I run configure on kdebase it locks my system up. I can switch terminals but that's it. It locks up on configure when detecting QT(I believe line 5612). The first time it did this I decided that was because I need to rebuild

HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Murray Stokely
As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work has already been accomplished, and could benefit from the

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Jeff Roberson
Should I postpone my allocator commit then? Thanks, Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Mark Murray
To this end, we would like to request that commits for the next 7 days to HEAD be made with special care. -CURRENT is in pretty good shape right now, so we're not requiring approval for all commits. I have a Perl-5.6.1 upgrade. Is that too risky? Apart from the perl stuff itself, there are

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:16:53 +, Mark Murray wrote: To this end, we would like to request that commits for the next 7 days to HEAD be made with special care. -CURRENT is in pretty good shape right now, so we're not requiring approval for all commits. I have a Perl-5.6.1

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Brian Somers
To this end, we would like to request that commits for the next 7 days to HEAD be made with special care. -CURRENT is in pretty good shape right now, so we're not requiring approval for all commits. I have a Perl-5.6.1 upgrade. Is that too risky? Apart from the perl stuff itself,

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work has already been accomplished, and could benefit from

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
Does this include getting someone to fix picobsd for -CURRENT? Is this important for the snapshots? Later, George *** Making static libraries cd /home/gnn/FreeBSD/src.latest/lib/csu/i386-elf; make depend; make all; make install rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Brian Somers
As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work has already been accomplished, and could benefit

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Joel Wilsson
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:59:53AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
currently kde doesn't work due to binuntils update. It may work now after the most recent binutils update, but we have to recompile kde to see that I believe, andkdelibs cannot be compiled which builds kde-config which the rest of the kde meta-ports try to run. I think that last

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 10:17:16AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: currently kde doesn't work due to binuntils update. It may work now after the most recent binutils update, but we have to recompile kde to see that I believe, andkdelibs cannot be compiled which builds kde-config

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
currently kde doesn't work due to binuntils update. It may work now after the most recent binutils update, but we have to recompile kde to see that I believe, andkdelibs cannot be compiled which builds kde-config which the rest of the kde meta-ports try to run. I think that

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:20:35AM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 10:17:16AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: currently kde doesn't work due to binuntils update. It may work now after the most recent binutils update, but we have to recompile kde to see that I

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 10:17:16AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: currently kde doesn't work due to binuntils update. It may work now after the most recent binutils update, but we have to recompile kde to see that I believe, andkdelibs cannot be compiled which builds kde-config

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
Sounds to me like there are fixes in the pipeline from Mike and Thomas. Hopefully they'll get that committed in the next day or two so that KDE can be happy on -CURRENT before the snapshot. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs,

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Michael G. Petry
There seem to be two distinct problems. The header one seems to have resolution,I got around it by the nested include. The second one may be OBJPRELINK, but does seem to be nailed down yet. Martin Blapp ran into what might be related problems in the OpenOffice port. I've only seen it on g++

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: Hmm. My impression was that the libpng stuff had been fixed, could you confirm that KDE still doesn't build on 5.0-CURRENT? Its not related to libpng, I believe that has been fixed, but I cannot tell for sure because kde cannot be compiled

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:17 AM -0600 3/8/02, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: Yes. Recent changes to netinet/in.h have made it require the inclusion of arpa/inet.h. As well, arpa/inet.h must include netinet/in.h. IOW, each of these files must #include the other in order to work correctly. As you might guess, this is a

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
I'm surprised that everyone hasn't complained about world breakage from this. It has been broken for almost 2 weeks now. Everything that goes near ntohl and has WARNS = 2 fails to compile. Without WARNS, the bug is reported as above, but a bogus version of __hton* is found in the library

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Chris Hedley
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work has already

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:57 AM +1100 3/9/02, Bruce Evans wrote: I'm surprised that everyone hasn't complained about world breakage from this. It has been broken for almost 2 weeks now. Everything that goes near ntohl and has WARNS = 2 fails to compile. Without WARNS, the bug is reported as above, but a bogus

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Matthew Jacob
And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:35:47PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. Yes. Or panic. See my posts earlier this week. I managed to get 2 buildworlds without accidents, but all make release attempts either paniced or froze. -- | / o /

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Matthew Jacob
Sorry- couldn't see your posts. Majordomo bounced my resubscribe request to the list owner who seems to not to have gotten it. On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:35:47PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Will this release include some kind of bootable-install support for any new hardware

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Mike Barcroft
Joel Wilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:59:53AM -0600, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Mike Barcroft
[ Could we CC a few more lists? I'm not sure everyone that uses FreeBSD has read this yet. :) ] David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its not related to libpng, I believe that has been fixed, but I cannot tell for sure because kde cannot be compiled under -current. I'm not the

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
Hmm. This should be non-fatal in any event, but which header does it include to get it's htons() and htonl() prototypes? netinet/in.h, arpa/inet.h, or sys/param.h? Yes. Recent changes to netinet/in.h have made it require the inclusion of arpa/inet.h. As well, arpa/inet.h must include

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Garance A Drosihn wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Will this release include some kind of bootable-install

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Will this

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Matthew Jacob writes: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some Uniprocessor boxes freeze up. I suggest reverting rev 1.61 of alpha/alpha/interrupt.c (eg, disable interrupt thread preemption). I'm on the west coast right now, away from my alphas, but I had several buildworlds complete last week

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Jake Burkholder
Apparently, On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:33:28PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn said words to the effect of; On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Matthew Jacob
Yes, Peter also suggested this. Alas, at some point over the last couple of days, something also broke so that polled mailbox commands for ISP are now broken. Dunno why. *shrug* On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Matthew Jacob writes: And FWIW, alpha kernels on some

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Jake Burkholder wrote: Will this release include some kind of bootable-install support for any new hardware platforms, such as sparc64? (this snapshot is meant to be available as some kind of CD-package, right?) Yes, absolutely. Wow. This is really impressive. I thought it wasn't

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Jake Burkholder
Apparently, On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:12:47PM -0800, Terry Lambert said words to the effect of; Jake Burkholder wrote: Will this release include some kind of bootable-install support for any new hardware platforms, such as sparc64? (this snapshot is meant to be available as

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:17:24AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: To this end, we would like to request that commits for the next 7 days to HEAD be made with special care. -CURRENT is in pretty good shape right now, so we're not requiring approval for all commits. Some of the 5.x package

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Mike Barcroft
David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm. This should be non-fatal in any event, but which header does it include to get it's htons() and htonl() prototypes? netinet/in.h, arpa/inet.h, or sys/param.h? Yes. Recent changes to netinet/in.h have made it require the inclusion

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Mike Barcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe not. I think missing prototypes might be fatal in C++. Yes. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
Maybe not. I think missing prototypes might be fatal in C++. If this is the case, my new endian patch will fix this. Try compiling KDE after installing a world with the following patch applied: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~mike/patches/endian-ng3.diff I plan on committing this on Sunday.

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:32 PM -0600 3/8/02, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: Try compiling KDE after installing a world with the following patch applied: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~mike/patches/endian-ng3.diff I plan on committing this on Sunday. I don't know if its related to this patch, but I get this

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
I don't know if its related to this patch, but I get this when I buildworld now I just did a complete buildworld + installworld with no trouble, and I then added the above patch and did another complete buildworld + installworld. I had no problems with either build. Applying the above