Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > That is (1) against Handbook documented policy, (2) too hackish (we > aren't Linux). And who came up with that policy in the first place? -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:47:04AM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > However, this may turn out to be so painful that we need to bump it > > again. > > That is (1) against Handbook documented policy, (2) too hackish (we > aren't Linux). It's not bumpi

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:47:04AM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > However, this may turn out to be so painful that we need to bump it > again. That is (1) against Handbook documented policy, (2) too hackish (we aren't Linux). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe f

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:44:21PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: >This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you >intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party application >that uses stdio will break. For -stable this would be true. We've already

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Manfred Antar
At 11:47 AM 2/12/2001 -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > >> The major number has already been bumped, I thought. If this is true >> then we've only broken compatibility with older versions of -current >> after the version number was bumped but before this change, right? > >However, this may

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > The major number has already been bumped, I thought. If this is true > then we've only broken compatibility with older versions of -current > after the version number was bumped but before this change, right? However, this may turn out to be so painful that we need to bump it again. -

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Thomas David Rivers
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > Matt Dillon wrote: > > > > : > > : This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you > > : intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party applicatio > n > > : that uses stdio will break. > > : > > :

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Doug Barton
Doug Barton wrote: > > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Argh... We are in far worse shape than I thought... > > > It seems that the "temporary" copies of the host tools like install etc > > are getting clobbered by the non-version-bump of libc. > > > > It is sheer luck that only the sed thing died befo

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Doug Barton
Peter Wemm wrote: > Argh... We are in far worse shape than I thought... > It seems that the "temporary" copies of the host tools like install etc > are getting clobbered by the non-version-bump of libc. > > It is sheer luck that only the sed thing died before. It could have been > a lot worse

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Peter Wemm wrote: > Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > > I cant help but wonder why on earth we didn't have it like this from the > > > start: > > > > > > Index: include/stdio.h > > > === > > > RCS

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > I cant help but wonder why on earth we didn't have it like this from the > > start: > > > > Index: include/stdio.h > > === > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/include/stdio.

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > I cant help but wonder why on earth we didn't have it like this from the > start: > > Index: include/stdio.h > === > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/include/stdio.h,v > retrieving revision 1.26 > di

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > The new libc is incompatible with some old applications, but I'm not > too sure why. The lock was added at the end of FILE... It's very incompatible. I happened to compile make(1) with the new stdio.h and the old libc.a (partly because unrelated cha

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Matt Dillon wrote: > > > > > > : > > > : This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if yo u > > > : intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party applic atio > > n > > > :

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Matt Dillon
: :I cant help but wonder why on earth we didn't have it like this from the :start: : :Index: include/stdio.h :=== :... Yah. I say commit it. Might as well, it can't hurt any worse then changing the size of FILE.

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Peter Wemm wrote: > Matt Dillon wrote: > > > > : > > : This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you > > : intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party applicatio > n > > : that uses stdio will break. > > : > > :

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Matt Dillon wrote: > > : > : This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you > : intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party applicatio n > : that uses stdio will break. > : > : -Matt > > Oh wait, is libc alre

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Matt Dillon
: : This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you : intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party application : that uses stdio will break. : : -Matt Oh wait, is libc already bumped in current verses 4.2? If so

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:44:21PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: > > :> The new libc is incompatible with some old applications, but I'm not > :> too sure why. The lock was added at the end of FILE... > : > :The size of FILE changed, thus the old application and the new library > :no longer agree ab

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Matt Dillon
:> The new libc is incompatible with some old applications, but I'm not :> too sure why. The lock was added at the end of FILE... : :The size of FILE changed, thus the old application and the new library :no longer agree about the values for stdout and stderr: : : #define stdin (&__sF[0]

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Tor . Egge
> The new libc is incompatible with some old applications, but I'm not > too sure why. The lock was added at the end of FILE... The size of FILE changed, thus the old application and the new library no longer agree about the values for stdout and stderr: #define stdin (&__sF[0])

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > > deischen2001/02/11 14:06:46 PST > > > > > > Modified files: > > > include stdio.h > > > Log: > > > libc MT-safety, part 2.

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > deischen2001/02/11 14:06:46 PST > > > > Modified files: > > include stdio.h > > Log: > > libc MT-safety, part 2. > > > > Add a lock to FILE and define an additional fla

HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-11 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > deischen2001/02/11 14:06:46 PST > > Modified files: > include stdio.h > Log: > libc MT-safety, part 2. > > Add a lock to FILE and define an additional flag. This commit caused some bootstrap problems. The installworl