Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 01:22:45PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > ... > > > I suppose I will be commenting out that DIAGNOSTIC option now :-} > > > > Try to just set debug.vmem_check to 0 and see if it helps. > > ... >

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > ... > > I suppose I will be commenting out that DIAGNOSTIC option now :-} > > Try to just set debug.vmem_check to 0 and see if it helps. > ... OK; I rebooted the new(er) laptop with the previous kernel (that was built

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:48:47PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 05:21:28AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > > ... > > FWIW, the copy of the laptop's "head" kernel config in > > http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/CANARY is current. > > > > And the only

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 05:21:28AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > ... > FWIW, the copy of the laptop's "head" kernel config in > http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/CANARY is current. > > And the only difference between the stable/12 config and the head config > is: > >

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 02:10:51PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > ... > > I definitely do NOT see anything like this running stable/12 (presently > > at r368181). > > > > I will try some experiments with another laptop (a newer one, for which > > the built-in mouse is detected weirdly, making it

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread Mateusz Guzik
On 11/30/20, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 03:20:15PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: >> On 11/29/20, David Wolfskill wrote: >> > On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 10:47:57AM -0500, Jonathan Looney wrote: >> >> FWIW, I would try running lockstat on the box. (My supposition is that >> >> the

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 03:20:15PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > On 11/29/20, David Wolfskill wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 10:47:57AM -0500, Jonathan Looney wrote: > >> FWIW, I would try running lockstat on the box. (My supposition is that > >> the > >> delay is due to a lock. That could be

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 08:16:22AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Ryan Stone wrote: > ... > > I believe that if you run lockstat with the additional "-x > > destructive" option, it will disable the responsiveness test (the > > option does sound scary but

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:04:46AM -0500, Ryan Stone wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 AM David Wolfskill wrote: > > OK, and demonstrated some long RTTs about every 11 packets or so, but we > > see thing come to a screeching halt with: > > > > ... > > 64 bytes from 172.16.8.13: icmp_seq=534

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread Ryan Stone
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 AM David Wolfskill wrote: > OK, and demonstrated some long RTTs about every 11 packets or so, but we > see thing come to a screeching halt with: > > ... > 64 bytes from 172.16.8.13: icmp_seq=534 ttl=63 time=0.664 ms > lockstat: dtrace_status(): Abort due to systemic

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 03:20:15PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > ... > According to the data you got the entire kernel "freezes" every 11-12 > seconds. So something way off is going on there. I'm (quite) prepared to believe that. :-} > Given that the bug seems to be reproducible I think it would

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread Mateusz Guzik
On 11/29/20, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 10:47:57AM -0500, Jonathan Looney wrote: >> FWIW, I would try running lockstat on the box. (My supposition is that >> the >> delay is due to a lock. That could be incorrect. Lockstat may provide >> some >> clue as to whether this is a

Re: Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-29 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 10:47:57AM -0500, Jonathan Looney wrote: > FWIW, I would try running lockstat on the box. (My supposition is that the > delay is due to a lock. That could be incorrect. Lockstat may provide some > clue as to whether this is a line of inquiry worth pursuing.) > Thanks

Laptop exhibits erratic responsiveness

2020-11-28 Thread David Wolfskill
I've delayed trying to send this, as I wasn't clear on how to express it -- and I had hoped that the problem would "go away" before I figured that part out: I first observed it around 09 Nov, which is when I updated the laptop (via in-place source upgrade, as usual) from r367484 to r367517. One