Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Jakub Lach
Could you elaborate? Are those ntfs pendrives? ntfs support by ntfs.ko and mount_ntfs was removed in 10 tree. There is fuse kernel module and a port for ntfs in place of it (haven't tested but I'm told it works). Regarding fat (msdosfs) pendrives, I've just mounted one created under 8-CURRENT.

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Jakub Lach
Regarding ports, since I've converted to pkng earlier, for most part I've just removed /usr/local/* and hit portmaster -af -- View this message in context:

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Robert_Burmeister
Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release. A) Clang does not need to to be installed first. B) FreeBSD 10's change to pkg(8) (a.k.a. PKGNG) affects the portupgrade tools as well as the package tools. Even if you are not using packages

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Robert_Burmeister
E) None of the USB flash drives I used with FreeBSD 9.2 will mount on FreeBSD 10.0. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Lessons-learned-from-source-upgrade-from-FreeBSD-i386-9-2-Stable-to-FreeBSD-i386-10-0-Release-tp5878896p5880959.html Sent from the

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Robert_Burmeister
Jakub Lach wrote Could you elaborate? Are those ntfs pendrives? ntfs support by ntfs.ko and mount_ntfs was removed in 10 tree. There is fuse kernel module and a port for ntfs in place of it (haven't tested but I'm told it works). Regarding fat (msdosfs) pendrives, I've just mounted one created

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-29 Thread Jakub Lach
Fuse is now the only way to mount ntfs. That's all. Regarding Gnome, Avahi or hald, I use none of it so really I have nothing to compare. Speaking of ports, did you really cleanly rebuild all of them? When you are speaking of ports linked against port libconv, I'm suspicious (old libtool?).

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-24 Thread Jakub Lach
I've made a switch early. What gave me some bumps: - removal of ntfs module - vorbis-tools-1.4.0_6,3 with ogg123 missing (??) - ports built on db42 - malloc.conf - gcc48 entries in libmap.conf (my fault) - subversion-static looks broken a bit, nls problems e.g. $ sudo svn up Password: Service

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-24 Thread Jakub Lach
Unfortunately, I think there is measurable penalty going to BSD licensed tools, same system: http://pastebin.com/BNfhevBa -- View this message in context:

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Jakub Lach
I plan to stay some time on 9.2-STABLE (already pkgng and clangfied) waiting maybe till next release from 10-STABLE tree, however 10-STABLE will be where I will be eventually heading, so notes in this spirit are valuable reminders at least, I appreciate it. -- View this message in context:

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Jakub Lach wrote: I plan to stay some time on 9.2-STABLE (already pkgng and clangfied) waiting maybe till next release from 10-STABLE tree, however 10-STABLE will be where I will be eventually heading, so notes in this spirit are valuable reminders at least, I appreciate

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 23 Jan 2014, at 05:49, Robert Burmeister robert.burmeis...@utoledo.edu wrote: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release. A) Clang is needed to compile FreeBSD 10 due to use of the updated libstdc++ in world. Ehrm, no? You should

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Thomas Hoffmann
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Using -DNOCLEAN with an existing /usr/obj can go even faster than ccache: less than two minutes for a buildworld on my frequently updated i5/SSD system, sometimes less than one minute. Can you elaborate on this, please?

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Thomas Hoffmann trh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Using -DNOCLEAN with an existing /usr/obj can go even faster than ccache: less than two minutes for a buildworld on my frequently updated

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Thomas Hoffmann trh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Using -DNOCLEAN with an existing /usr/obj can go even faster than ccache:

Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Thomas Hoffmann
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Thomas Hoffmann trh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

Re: Fw: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-23 Thread Thomas Hoffmann
. Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:22:50 +0100 From: Matthew Rezny matt...@reztek.cz To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Warren Block

Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release.

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Burmeister
Lessons learned from source upgrade from FreeBSD i386 9.2 Stable to FreeBSD i386 10.0 Release. A) Clang is needed to compile FreeBSD 10 due to use of the updated libstdc++ in world. My workaround was to upgrade FreeBSD 9.2 to Clang 3.3 in the base system and remove GCC 4.2.1 from base 9.2