Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-17 Thread Nate Williams
> > It requires two downloads to get a working JDK system. No other OS > > requires multiple packages to work. > > > > People shouldn't have to compile Motif up just to get a non-source > > version of the JDK to work. Versioning problems that can be caused by > > folks using different include f

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
> >Unlike X (which rarely changes), I suspect the Motif stuff to change > >alot. > > I'm unclear on what gyrations you are expecting from a mature API > codified in an IEEE standard. As long as you're using the Motif > standard interface in your code you should have nothing to worry about. Ahh,

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Nate Williams wrote: >Unlike X (which rarely changes), I suspect the Motif stuff to change >alot. I'm unclear on what gyrations you are expecting from a mature API codified in an IEEE standard. As long as you're using the Motif standard interface in your code you should hav

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread VINSON WAYNE HOWARD
> No, I'm saying that OpenSource Motif *will* be going through lots of > gyrations in the future, and these gyrations may cause instabilities in > the JDK. > > But, if the JDK uses the Motif version it was compiled against, it will > work 'consistently. > > Unlike X (which rarely changes), I su

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
> > > If this Open Motif can be distributed as a port or package for FreeBSD > > > itself (and it seems to me that it can), then what hassle is that for > > > JDK on FreeBSD? > > > >It requires two downloads to get a working JDK system. No other OS > >requires multiple packages to work. > > As l

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:35 AM -0600 5/16/00, Nate Williams wrote: > > If this Open Motif can be distributed as a port or package for FreeBSD > > itself (and it seems to me that it can), then what hassle is that for > > JDK on FreeBSD? > >It requires two downloads to get a working JDK system. No other OS >requires m

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread R Joseph Wright
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2000 23:08:23 -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > > > > Check it out at: > > > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ > > > > Yes, that is great news! I tried compiling it, but I had trouble with > > lib/Xm/Scale.c. It wanted to include ,

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Nate Williams
> > > I think that you no longer have to include Motif with the JDK. > > > Just let the distribution of Motif come from freebsd.org , i.e., > > > a port or a package. > > > >Too much hassle IMO. I'd *much* rather distribute it as part of the > >package, and I'm looking into how feasible it would

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
> > I think that you no longer have to include Motif with the JDK. > > Just let the distribution of Motif come from freebsd.org , i.e., > > a port or a package. > >Too much hassle IMO. I'd *much* rather distribute it as part of the >package, and I'm looking into how feasible it would be to distri

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Donn Miller
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I've integrated NetBSD's langinfo and nl_types support into FreeBSD. I > can send you patches if you haven't managed to work around this yet? Great. Please send me the patches. BTW, by "integrated", do you mean that you've integrated them into the b

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 15 May 2000 23:08:23 -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > > Check it out at: > > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ > > Yes, that is great news! I tried compiling it, but I had trouble with > lib/Xm/Scale.c. It wanted to include , which FreeBSD > doesn't have. I've integrated NetBSD's langi

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > > I have a copy. However, the license is 'interesting' enough to read > > > that I'm not sure it can be used inside the JDK distribution, so if > > > someone can give me an explanation that I can understand that I'm legal > > > to distribute the library as part of an application, please show

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Nate Williams
> > I have a copy. However, the license is 'interesting' enough to read > > that I'm not sure it can be used inside the JDK distribution, so if > > someone can give me an explanation that I can understand that I'm legal > > to distribute the library as part of an application, please show me in >

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > I have a copy. However, the license is 'interesting' enough to read > that I'm not sure it can be used inside the JDK distribution, so if > someone can give me an explanation that I can understand that I'm legal > to distribute the library as part of an application, please show me in > terms

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Nate Williams
> Check it out at: > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ > > "We want to support the momentum of Open Source operating systems such as > Linux® and FreeBSD by developing an Open Motif® licence for use with > Open Source operating systems." > > Also the OpenGroup is looking for sites to mirror t

Re: Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Donn Miller
Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Check it out at: > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ Yes, that is great news! I tried compiling it, but I had trouble with lib/Xm/Scale.c. It wanted to include , which FreeBSD doesn't have. So, I copied langinfo.h from /usr/compat/linux/usr/include, but even then, t

Motif is now Open Source 8)

2000-05-15 Thread Amancio Hasty
Check it out at: http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ "We want to support the momentum of Open Source operating systems such as Linux® and FreeBSD by developing an Open Motif® licence for use with Open Source operating systems." Also the OpenGroup is looking for sites to mirror their Motif dis