Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-03-01 Thread Andrea Campi
Let's take another example. The REQUIREMENT line in a script cannot be made conditional. It requires a modification of rcorder(8) to do so. So, if one of NetBSD's services has a requirement that we don't have, it automatically means we need two separate scripts with different REQUIREMENT

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-02-28 Thread Mike Makonnen
I've been working from Gordon Tetlow's work on this, for the past few weeks. I have managed to get most everyting up to network_pass3 in /etc/rc. It's still very much in development, but it's quite usable and I use it to boot my system on a daily basis. I chose to go a slightly different route

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-02-28 Thread Terry Lambert
Thanks for the hard work, Mike! Mike Makonnen wrote: - Converging startup scripts before the rest of the system is converted will be a nightmare because there are too many differences. Examples why: - The -w switch is deprecated in FreeBSD, and NetBSD still requires

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-02-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:39:33AM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote: I chose to go a slightly different route than Gordon, in that I have not tried to make the scripts compatible with NetBSD (His scripts include conditionals for NetBSD, mine don't). These are my reasons. The point you are missing

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-02-28 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 09:02, Terry Lambert wrote: Thanks for the hard work, Mike! Thanks, nice to know someone appreciates it. Every one has their own ideas about how it _should_ be done, so I expected I'd get flamed for not pleasing everyone. OTOH it's been less than 24 hours since I posted

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project -- What I have so far...

2002-02-28 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 09:23, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:39:33AM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote: I chose to go a slightly different route than Gordon, in that I have not tried to make the scripts compatible with NetBSD (His scripts include conditionals for NetBSD, mine

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-27 Thread Doug Barton
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Crist J. Clark wrote: Looking at the repository, I have not really seen anything done with building a NetBSD-style rc.d system that will provide FreeBSD functionality for a long time. Several of us have started on this, and either run out of time, or interest (as

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-27 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 02:02:11AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Crist J. Clark wrote: Looking at the repository, I have not really seen anything done with building a NetBSD-style rc.d system that will provide FreeBSD functionality for a long time. Several of us

NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Crist J. Clark
Looking at the repository, I have not really seen anything done with building a NetBSD-style rc.d system that will provide FreeBSD functionality for a long time. In fact, I can find very little aside from the initial import. I also noticed there was no mention in the last Monthly Report. Did any

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or attempting to expand the scope of the project requirements

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:00:52 EST, Kevin Way wrote: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been in contact with Gordon Tetlow to see how he's

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
Should committers be updating those files when they update /etc/rc? If so, I'll need to change the sendmail startup routines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Way wrote: As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or attempting to expand

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: I, for one, lost interest in doing the work when I realized I was receiving, quite literally, 5 times more complaints than combined patches, constructive criticism or positive feedback. Well, for what it's worth I didn't say anything

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sean Chittenden
I spent some time in the fall learning the NetBSD system (unfortunately I'm not running any NetBSD boxes at the moment or this would probably be a _lot_ easier), but have not really done any work. I thought some people were working on it, but not in the tree. I did not want to duplicate or

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:17:49AM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: Should committers be updating those files when they update /etc/rc? If so, I'll need to change the sendmail startup routines. No. That will pull them off the vendor branch before we are ready for that. To Unsubscribe:

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:48 PM -0800 2/26/02, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: I, for one, lost interest in doing the work when I realized I was receiving, quite literally, 5 times more complaints than combined patches, constructive criticism or positive

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* Sean Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 04:05]: I'm about to dive into doing some work for an rc system for the ports (${PREFIX}/etc/defaults ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.conf) and have an interest in learning about the way they've done things. Does their paradigm completely obsolete the rc.conf

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 04:39]: I may have dropped the ball on this. I was waiting for a tarball from you, that you were happy with. You may have told me where to pick one up that I failed to do. Thanks for offering yourself up as an excuse, but the failure to deliver a

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 03:58]: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been in contact with Gordon Tetlow to see how he's

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sean Chittenden
I'm about to dive into doing some work for an rc system for the ports (${PREFIX}/etc/defaults ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.conf) and have an interest in learning about the way they've done things. Does their paradigm completely obsolete the rc.conf concept? Were there any docs/project pages

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Kevin Way wrote: * Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 03:58]: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been