Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:06:34AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim > > > wrote: > > > >Because of that deinstall lo

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim > > wrote: > > >Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a > > >port, you get somethi

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim > wrote: > >Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a > >port, you get something like this: > > > >Jul 10 23:06:40 chombo pkg-static: ca_root_nss-3.15.1 ins

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-26 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a >port, you get something like this: > >Jul 10 23:06:40 chombo pkg-static: ca_root_nss-3.15.1 installed >Nov 29 15:04:52 chombo pkg: ca_root_nss reinstalled: 3.15.2_1 > >T

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 12/22/2013 6:00 AM, Frank Seltzer wrote: Adrian Chadd said: The point is that some people like an audit trail. The audit trail for some people involves remote logging of syslog messages to a log host. This would include when packages are installed. There are two more: 1. When a port was de

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread dt71
figuration file Glen Barber replied: echo 'SYSLOG: no' >> /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf And Shane Ambler: now we can turn it off which I don't think we could before. All of this is mostly off-topic. I haven't had any opposition to logging. Instead, I originally thought that th

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 15:48:49 +0400, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Steve, > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14:03PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: S> It did > not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have S> this stupidity > stopped by default. The spewing of this S> information in > /var/log/messages pr

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Frank Seltzer
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 09:00:42AM -0500, Frank Seltzer wrote: /root # man pkg.conf No manual entry for pkg.conf pkg.conf man pages comes with pkg itself, just bootstrap it and you will get the manpage :) regards, Bapt OK, my bad, I did this

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Ian Lepore
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 15:25 -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: > > On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > >> this has been done and activated for reason, first

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/12/2013 16:08, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/12/2013 14:55, olli hauer wrote: >> What I agree is having it would be nice to have dedicated syslog >> (like yum.log) instead /var/log/messages since this is already >> spammed by most every process. > > Add something like this to /etc/syslog.con

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 22/12/2013 14:55, olli hauer wrote: > What I agree is having it would be nice to have dedicated syslog > (like yum.log) instead /var/log/messages since this is already > spammed by most every process. Add something like this to /etc/syslog.conf: !pkg *.* /var/log/pkg.log C

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-12-22 15:00, Frank Seltzer wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: >>> I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big >>> portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a l

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 09:00:42AM -0500, Frank Seltzer wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: > >> I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a > >> big portupgrade procedure. I get the follo

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Frank Seltzer
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Steve, On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:14:03PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: S> It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have S> this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this S> information in /var/log/messages provides NOTHING. Please S> turn it off by default. I am really sup

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-22 Thread Adrian Chadd
The point is that some people like an audit trail. The audit trail for some people involves remote logging of syslog messages to a log host. This would include when packages are installed. -adrian On 21 December 2013 15:49, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:47:01PM -0500, Glen Ba

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Shane Ambler
On 22/12/2013 09:34, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >> this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, > > companies can turn it on it they want it. Generally the more secure option is default, you can turn off

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Jakub Lach
I was surprised initially, but haven't thought about it much since. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/PACKAGESITE-spam-tp5870583p5870666.html Sent from the freebsd-current mailing list archive at Nabbl

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article <20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Steve Kargl writes: >Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide >that 'pkg info' doesn't! A record of when packages were installed and removed. -GAWollman ___ free

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:49:26PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > /var/log/message never gets corrupted? > If a machine is compromised, I can review log from remote syslog server. It is impossible to trust the package information, relying on the local database alone. Glen pgpklyEF3RMKl.pgp Descr

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > In article <20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, > > Steve Kargl writes: > > > > >Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide >

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:47:01PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > In article <20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, > > > Steve Kargl writes: > > > >

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:44:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > In article <20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, > > Steve Kargl writes: > > > > >Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide >

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 06:29:17PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <20131221230448.ga61...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, > Steve Kargl writes: > > >Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide > >that 'pkg info' doesn't! > > A record of when packages were installed

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Florian Smeets
On 22/12/13 00:04, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> > > Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide > that 'pkg info' doesn't! Please turn of this feature by default. > No please don't, it's a very useful feature, y

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/22/2013 12:25 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, co

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: > On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >> this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, > > companies can turn it on it they wan

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it. And if you want to save the few extra kB, you can turn it off...

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, companies can turn it on it they want it. > secondly I receive tons of request to actiavte on by default while > you are the first to request it off by

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:39:59PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:24:55PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: > > >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > > >> > > >

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 01:24:55PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> > >>> It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this > >>>

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 12/21/2013 1:05 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this information in /var/log/messages pr

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 02:54:39PM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: > On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > It did not ask how to stop this stupidity. I asked to have this > > stupidity stopped by default. The spewing of this information in > > /var/log/messages provides NOTHING. Please turn

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Greg Rivers
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/21/2013 9:14 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 03:10:26PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: > > > I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big > > > portupgrade procedure.

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:05:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: > > I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big > > portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: > > > > pkg: PACKAGESITE

Re: PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 07:35:56PM +0100, d...@gmx.com wrote: > I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big > portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: > > pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a repository > configuration

PACKAGESITE spam

2013-12-21 Thread dt71
I've just installed a very recent -CURRENT, and now I'm performing a big portupgrade procedure. I get the following message spammed a lot: pkg: PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf is deprecated. Please create a repository configuration file ___ freebsd-current@fr