Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-06 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Yonghyeon PYUN wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:56:37PM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote: Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The latter was later ported

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-06 Thread David Chisnall
On 6 Feb 2014, at 18:34, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Best avoid the obscure word `Deprecated' in manuals: It's not common/ plain English. Maybe a geek import, or USA dialect ? It's not easily internationaly understood English. Best make manuals easier for non native English

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-06 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Best avoid the obscure word `Deprecated' in manuals: It's not common/ plain English. Maybe a geek import, or USA dialect ? It's not easily internationaly understood English. Best make manuals easier for non native

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-06 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:52:43 + David Chisnall wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 18:34, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Best avoid the obscure word `Deprecated' in manuals: It's not common/ plain English.

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-06 Thread Allan Jude
On 2014-02-06 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From:David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org Date:Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:52:43 + David Chisnall wrote: On 6 Feb 2014, at 18:34, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Best avoid the obscure word

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, February 03, 2014 02:56:37 PM Christian Brueffer wrote: Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The latter was later ported from OpenBSD and is blob-free.

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-05 Thread Yonghyeon PYUN
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 02:56:37PM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote: Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The latter was later ported from OpenBSD and is blob-free.

RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Brueffer
Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The latter was later ported from OpenBSD and is blob-free. nfe(4) supports all chips nve(4) supports, in addition to all the newer

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-03 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 02/03/2014 07:56 AM, Christian Brueffer wrote: Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The latter was later ported from OpenBSD and is blob-free. nfe(4) supports all

Re: RFC: deprecation of nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removal from 11-CURRENT

2014-02-03 Thread Remko Lodder
On 03 Feb 2014, at 15:23, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 02/03/2014 07:56 AM, Christian Brueffer wrote: Hi, for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4). The former came first and is based on a binary blob. The